Talk:Metroid Prime 4

Should we cite the newly added production team, and how?

I notice how a good chunk of the team was just added to the article. I found the credits on YouTube and they do seem to be accurate, but I don't think a random YouTube video showing Beyond's final boss is a "reliable source". Any ideas for how we should proceed, assuming they need to be cited (which I think they do)?

– Thanks! Sincerely, ModdedInstall2. (my edits | leave a message) 20:04, 3 December 2025 (UTC)

The game itself can be used as a source for the credits if they are explicitly noted in the game. This would be if no third-party sourcing can be found for the people who need to be sourced. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 14:46, 4 December 2025 (UTC)

Avoiding an edit war on NPC reception

In the two reviews that this article cites in reference to NPCs, both praised them despite their controversial addition; however this is contrasted by an earlier paragraph in the article that says the NPCs were typically criticized.

I have attempted to resolve this by denoting the NPC reception as mixed instead. User popcornfud has reverted this twice; once under the notion of fixing the grammar, and later citing the reviews shown in the article, despite the reviews saying elsewise.

Should the summary paragraph on critic reviews not reflect the reviews cited in this article? Or should we find reviews critical of the NPCs to match the summary paragraph? ~2025-40629-52 (talk) 18:31, 30 December 2025 (UTC)

Per WP:LEAD, the lead should summarize the article body, so the summary of the critical reception should broadly match the Reception section in the article.

So, what does the Reception section say? The Pre-release section has a whole paragraph of criticism for the NPCs. The other section describes them as "controversial" but "not as bad as feared". We only have one critic saying anything unambigously good about them. So I think saying in the lead that "critics criticized the non-player characters" is a fair summary; I do not see critics being "divided" here.

(These two subsections are confusingly presented right now, and should probably be merged, but that's a different matter.) Popcornfud (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2025 (UTC)

The summary in the lead is written in a manner that indicates it is referencing reviews to the released work, and not pre-release reactions.

Of the four review quotes given under reception, only one is shown to praise the NPCs, true. However in the actual reviews, two more of them offer explicit praise for the NPCs, albeit one includes criticism as well:

IGN: "Their limited presence means they don’t have amazing character arcs – a more than acceptable side effect – but they do have mostly likeable personalities and provide a few highlights that give Prime 4 its own identity."

Techradar (paraphrased 'cause three paragraphs): "...didn't hate... Yes, [Mackenzie is annoying]... but there's great chemistry... endearing."

I went and checked all 17 reviews listed in the accompanying table; 11/17 (64%) offer overall praise for the NPCs, 3 (17%) give a mixed response, 2 (11%) did not have online reviews linked to check, and only 1 (5%) had exclusively critical feedback. Even arguing out 1-2 of the 11 favorable, the sources this article cites do not support the summary in the lead. As we agree that reception to the NPCs is noteworthy, I believe references to them in the reviews we've sourced should be included, and they should be reflected in the lead's summary. ~2025-40629-52 (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

personally, I thought of it as hilarious how it was always so awkward with MacKenzie! MetroidPrime4BeyondFOREVER! (talk) 05:29, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Chronology FAULTY INFORMATION!

The section titled "Chronology" contains false info. The order it says is (with bold= mainline entry, parenthesis = spin off) "Metroid,(Zero Mission), Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, metroid prime: federation force, Metroid II: Return of Samus, (Samus' Return), Super Metroid, Metroid: Other M, Metroid Prime 4 Beyond, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Dread"(with no caps equal no bold and regular caps equals bold) The real order,(no non mainline) is Zero Mission(this is a seperate adventure, not the OG played on a GBA!) Metroid, Metroid Prime, Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, Metroid Prime Federation Force(widely considered a spin-off, but without the post-credit scene for this game, the developers of Prime 4 would have had nothing to go off of as to how Sylux got the Metroids, as the post-credit scene features Sylux stealing a metroid egg!), Metroid Prime 4: Beyond, any future Prime installations, Metroid II: Return of Samus, (remake:Metroid 2: Samus' Return), Super Metroid, Metroid Other M, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Dread! Can somebody please fix this as I do not know how! MetroidPrime4BeyondFOREVER! (talk) 05:28, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm not sure where you're finding a "chronology" section on this page? From what I can understand, is your issue that a chronology listed somehwere places Beyond in-between Super and Fusion? Because a developer interview stated that within the last week. ~2025-40629-52 (talk) 20:06, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

It is a side page! I think it is really titled "Story chronology"! And also, I had not heard of that interview, so I thought it used the same pattern as the OG trilogy! MetroidPrime4BeyondFOREVER! (talk) 19:31, 2 January 2026 (UTC)

LLM?

This edit tripped an edit filter and sure looks LLM-generated to me. I'd suggest reverting but will leave to someone else. NicheSports (talk) 22:27, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Not an expert here but thanks for flagging. Maybe you could ask for more opinions at WP:VG? Popcornfud (talk) 23:05, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

I'm active at WP:AINB and found this from my daily scan of the 1346 (hist · log) filter logs. Not that that is proof of something being AI-generated of course, just a reason to look. I reviewed the diff linked above and thought it was high enough probability of being LLM-generated to comment here but not high enough to revert outright. My recommendation would be to spot check some sources in the edit, if they support all claims, then all good. If material WP:V or WP:SYNTH issues are found, probably best to assume unreviewed LLM output and revert. NicheSports (talk) 23:30, 8 January 2026 (UTC)

Hiya, I made the edit in notepad so I could save it over a couple-days' free time, then copy-pasted it in.

Otherwise I just split the existing writing up based on topic (I looked at Majora's Mask as an example); I figure that's how LLMs work so maybe that's what the issue is?

Lastly I pulled the quotes from the other articles re: NPCs to try and get that part right especially. ~2025-40629-52 (talk) 07:20, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

@NicheSports: I investigated some of the claims added to the diff and checked them against the sources. Most of the new or altered claims seem to be supported by the sources, but I found a few that didn't add up:

• Reynolds felt the linearity limited how far the game could modernize the Metroid formula when compared to Metroid Dread (2021). Cited to
• Reynolds felt the storytelling and art design were among the best in the series Cited to
• Plant said Beyond was the most linear Metroid game he had played Cited to

I'm inexperienced in both using LLMs and investigating their use on Wikipedia, so I might have made mistakes or missed or something. Popcornfud (talk) 12:33, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

(This is ~2025-40629-52 speaking)

My apologies on those quotes, they'd already been published to the article for a while prior to my edit, so I didn't check them. The first quote definitely seems pulled from thin air; the second and third can be inferred from the respective articles but are not stated outright and should def be reworded.

Also apologies for all the anon comments; I didn't want to make an account for editing just one article, now I wish I had. ~2026-34636 (talk) 16:32, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

You're right, all of those claims were already in the article (). I apologize for not spotting that.

The section could benefit from rewriting and tidying up anyway, so at some point soon I'll try to do a thorough repair job. Popcornfud (talk) 16:52, 12 January 2026 (UTC)