Talk:Religion in Indonesia

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Necessary changes links to sources

The text is mainly links to sites and news (there is only a Bunge's non-special work of religion and a couple of others). The Wiki rules require, first of all, to be based on books published in scientific publications, and it is possible to supplement others. Now the article does not look serious (as a sample, look at this article in the Indonesian Wikipedia).

On March 4 and 5 I added not a small list of scientific literature, the new info that indigenous religions are already recognized by the Indonesian constitutional court, and began processing the article from the preamble. Unfortunately, Balolay completely canceled all my edits (I've already restored the bibliography). Please support the initiated changes. DayakSibiriak (talk) 23:04, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll do. DayakSibiriak (talk) 08:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Suspect typo

from Wikipedia:Correct typos in one click distruct->district? context: ~~~ [[Sukarno]]'s Old Order period (till 1966) was the distruct
distruct between religion and the state.{{sfn|Intan|2006|pp=44–50}} Significant changes in religion aspect also happened during ~~~

Now fixed - it was "distrust"/ Davidelit (Talk) 03:52, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks so much Davidelit for sorting that out! "Incoherence" is about right ... all better now. Cheers DBaK (talk) 07:30, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Indonesia Religions Map innacuracy

"Modernist Islam" and "Traditional Islam" are not sects of Islam, as shown otherwise in the map. Furthermore the sourcing of this map seems nonexistent and dubious. I think this issue needs to be addressed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.181.171.206 (talk) 05:33, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm wondering if the last portion of ===Hinduism=== is relavant

"There are also some international Hindu reform movements, including the International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Sathya Sai Organization,[7] Chinmaya Mission, Brahma Kumaris, Ananda Marga, Sahaja Yoga, and Haidakhandi Samaj.[77]" What were the impact of those movements on Hinduism in Indonesia?ThomasYehYeh (talk) 02:21, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Potential removal of Pancasila's requirement for Indonesia's citizens to state "the One and almighty God"

In the introduction of the article we bring up the Pancasila's requirement for Indonesian citizens to state "the One and almighty God" and how that relates to the official discrimination of religious minorities. However, on the article for the Pancasila we acknowledge that the translation is imprecise and is likely meant as the principle of living together in a society with a diversity of religions and beliefs. 50.222.187.196 (talk) 14:46, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

New section

@Ckfasdf: I am very confident in my excel calculation https://imageupload.io/87R3yEJxPQzGhZ6 Total population is 277.7 and not 276!. Bayoka55 (talk) 15:32, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

Your calculation is clearly wrong, it exceeds 100% https://imageupload.io/ewZdpPXW3MqU5I1 Bayoka55 (talk) 15:40, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

@Bayoka55: After further looking up the data, my calculation formula did not wrong. However, it is dataset taken from https://satudata.kemenag.go.id/dataset/detail/jumlah-penduduk-menurut-agama that actually have mistake (see https://imageupload.io/oRXva5KPsqWImVp). They made wrong calculation on province of "Kalimantan Barat", it was written "4281878" on "Jumlah" (total) column, whereas it should be "5497151". It seems they didn't include "katolik" in "Kalimantan Barat". Eventhough my formula is correct, since the raw dataset was wrong in the first place, and this cause the end result to be incorrect. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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split of Christianity

@Baqotun0023: Your edits of 17 November 2025 split Christianity into Catholicism and Roman Catholic. I think it is more sensible to leave this as a single "religion". The wikilink to Christianity in Indonesia provided that refinement for those who might be interested. Grouping the various sects of Christianity makes good sense, similar to Islam not being broken out into its different variants. Fabrickator (talk) 19:44, 17 November 2025 (UTC)

This makes sense, but administratively, Indonesia recognizes six official religions (and Christianity is divided into Catholicism and Protestantism). Referring solely to Christianity is a bit ambiguous. Baqotun0023 (talk) 06:59, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

@Baqotun0023: They don't break out the sects of Islam, so we don't have a choice in this. However, we should attempt to display the information in a way that's comparable across the different religions, which is what has been done since about 2007 or 2008, with the two recognized sects of Christianity shown as a single religion. I'm going to ask you to please revert this change. Thank you. Fabrickator (talk) 10:33, 18 November 2025 (UTC)

Hi. As far as Indonesian law is concerned, Catholicism and Protestantism are separate religions - two of the six recognised in Indonesia. Although Catholics and Protestants are allowed to marry - with special dispensation from the Catholic church for the Catholic partner, after marriage, the Protestant spouse is not allowed to receive communion, and any children are automatically Catholic. The two Christian sects were counted as separate religions from the 1960s when Confucianism was banned, but the Indonesian government wanted to keep the number of legal religions as five as that number has ritualistic significance. It increased to six when Confucianism was unbanned after the fall of the autocratic New Order regime. Davidelit (Talk) 08:04, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

@Davidelit: Inasmuch as the question is about how the information should be presented in the article, and not about the right of the Indonesian government to use this set of classifications, it is not clear how this relates to the question at hand. Fabrickator (talk) 16:17, 19 November 2025 (UTC)

freedom of religion or lack thereof

The article claims that the constitution declares Indonesia to be secular. As far as I can tell, this is not the case. In certain official contexts, the term "secular" is used, evidently meaning there is not a restriction to a particular religion, but the law appears to explicitly mandate belief in a supreme being; by practice, there are certain religions that are recognized, and presumably, any religion that complies with Pancasila is permissible.

Anyway, claims as to being secular should be removed or otherwise clarified. Fabrickator (talk) 23:52, 26 November 2025 (UTC)

To clarify, Indonesians states "... Indonesia is constitutionally a secular state ..." which is consistent with the claim in this article that "Indonesia ... is officially a secular state ". I foolishly inferred from these claims that the Constitution of Indonesia actually states this. Silly me! Fabrickator (talk) 01:34, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

This claim was added in the edit of 4 May 2025. Fabrickator (talk) 01:51, 27 November 2025 (UTC)

Move Shinto

Shinto was recently added to the Other Religions section. This interesting material should really be moved to the History division. The fact that the Government preserved one shrine in Medan as a historical item after the short Japanese occupation doesn't indicate the real existence of this religion. DayakSibiriak (talk) 00:25, 16 January 2026 (UTC)