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Incelcore

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Seems like most (although not all) of the sources mention it in passing, and also talk about the "Incel subculture" as a whole rather than the genre. ILoveSmallEdits (talk) 16:11, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:46, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
• Merge whatever consensus determines to be valuable into Incel, and delete the rest. The article isn't badly written, and it's decently cited, so I think whatever isn't already present on the Incel page should be considered for adding; but I don't really feel all that strongly about it. Foxtrot620 (talk) 18:57, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

  Comment I agree that's a good alternative to deletion as there's some valuable information in this article. ILoveSmallEdits (talk) 20:08, 15 March 2026 (UTC)

• Keep This is inaccurate, the 2026 pitchfork source breaks down the genre as a rock microgenre that emerged from 4chan culture. They had mentioned the genre previously in 2020 as well. Then there is sources by the Canadian Anti Hate Network which specifically state that the style has not much connection to the incel subculture so it would make no sense to put it on that article when the only connection is the name. Would it make sense to move the citations calling films like Fight Club incelcore to that article?
  This subject is also notable per the sources from the Quietus and even the Guardian. You are being disingenuous to say the sources do not talk about the scene or music given three of them which were made by anti hate networks specifically discuss the history of the scene, its music and the virginfest event. The article is specifically about the term “incelcore” which encompasses forms of internet slang and a rock microgenre as per the Pitchfork source. A merger would make no sense. Aradicus77 (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
• Delete. As the nominator said, most of the sources in this article are about the larger topic. The opening sentence underscores the confusion by defining the subject as an "Internet microgenre of rock music and online subculture".
  Is the article about the online subculture or the music genre? It's not covering either topic very well. It seems like a bricolage of random facts rather than a coherent article. Trumpetrep (talk) 20:16, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

  Comment This is a bizarre nitpick when articles like gothic rock make mention of the subculture as well, many genres are also subcultures just see punk rock, post-punk, emo, scene… etc. Per Wikipedia:Reliable sources and Wikipedia:Notability. This article is allowed to be on the site Aradicus77 (talk) 21:14, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

  Comment If the article is to be deleted I recommend a move redirect to a section at Internet music Aradicus77 (talk) 21:18, 13 March 2026 (UTC)

• Keep I think it's worth keeping because the idea that these sources only mention it in passing isn't really true. If you look at the Pitchfork and Canadian Anti-Hate Network refs, they aren't just talking about incels in general; they are specifically analyzing the music, the "Virginfest" event, and how the sound actually works. It's its own specific music scene (which is quite popular on TikTok) with its own history, and merging it into a page about a broad subculture would just make things more confusing, especially since the sources point out that incelcore music and the incel ideology aren't always the same thing. Plus, the term is clearly sticking around in culture if major papers like The Guardian are using it to describe other bands or movies. It meets the notability requirements because there's enough deep coverage here to show it's a real and documented phenomenon. Miiversal (talk) 21:35, 13 March 2026 (UTC)
• Keep incelcore has become a large subgenre in recent years. There are also quite a few sources that mention it in more than passing. No need to delete NP2026 (talk) 23:53, 14 March 2026 (UTC)
• Keep, passes GNG, an example of RS is the article Incelcore, l’estetica del fallimento ('Incelcore: the aesthetics of failure') from Italian newspaper Il manifesto, and the article also cites a book, Incel in una stanza-Il cinema dei maschi brutti, soli e cattivi, which also extensively examines the genre. Cavarrone 08:25, 17 March 2026 (UTC)
• Keep oer HEY and per Cavarrone. --SatnaamIN (talk) 00:08, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 13:39, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

keep per notability Aradicus77 (talk) 16:35, 23 March 2026 (UTC)

• keep, notable enough subgenre of rock, and various sources do go into detail Reallythatdunce (talk) 16:13, 21 March 2026 (UTC)

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