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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) BhikhariInformer‬ 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 02:40, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

Jim Provenzano

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This article cites no sources. This is the only article the article's creator has ever made or significantly worked and it looks pretty promotional and resume-like. Feels like a case of self-promotion for a journalist/author Eric Schucht (talk) 23:54, 21 June 2026 (UTC)

  • Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Dance, Photography, New York, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 01:17, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Comment. I'm pretty sure the novel/play PINS is notable. , , . And I found one review of Now I'm Here and some coverage of his earlier theater work . But even if this is a WP:NAUTHOR or WP:GNG pass, the article still needs to be rewritten from scratch. Jfire (talk) 04:26, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
    Several editors including myself have done extensive cleanup work, such that I think this is now a keep. Jfire (talk) 00:45, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
    Thanks for your great research and thorough editing here. It really is much improved, and much appreciated. ~ le 🌸 valyn (talk) 04:21, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Keep as the sources abpve show the subject is notable, and whilst the page needs work, deletion is not cleanup. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:46, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
    Article cites multiple sources. Subject is prominent in local journalism, literature and performing arts. Mention of these accomplishments is not self-promotion. Also relevant are associations other prominent publications and social movements. Myrman (talk) 16:06, 22 June 2026 (UTC)— Note to closing admin: Myrman (talk · contribs) appears to have a close connection with the subject of the article being discussed.
  • Keep. Per WP:NEXIST, notability depends on whether qualifying sources exist, not on whether the article currently cites them — the sourcing Jfire found above already supports a pass of WP:NAUTHOR/WP:GNG. The nomination's stated concerns (unsourced, "resume-like," possible self-promotion) describe a cleanup problem, not a notability problem; per deletion policy, "deletion is not cleanup."
  • Keep. Since this discussion opened, the article has been substantially improved with inline citations to the Bay Area Reporter, San Francisco Chronicle, GLBT Historical Society, and Lambda Literary covering the subject's journalism career, the Sporting Life exhibit, and the 2012 Lambda Literary Award. Sjlebl (talk) Sjlebl (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2026 (UTC) — Duplicate !vote: Sjlebl (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.
  • KEEP and Close Discussion. Given the above comments and improvements to the page, I propose that this discussion be closed. Sjlebl (talk) Sjlebl (talk) 01:47, 23 June 2026 (UTC) — Duplicate !vote: Sjlebl (talk • contribs) has already cast a !vote above.
  • Weak delete I'm not convinced that there's enough here to meet NAUTHOR with the sources Jfire has found and that have been added to the article, and from my own searches, amounting to a handful of review/previews. The quantity of self-published work and the apparent conflict of interest of Myrman (talk · contribs) don't help. The Lambda Literary Award and nom are significant points in favor of notability but I don't believe that it's a well enough known award to meet ANYBIO. —BrechtBro (talk) 21:42, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
    More coverage of the stage adaptation of PINS does appear to exist in Chicago papers per this link, but I remain skeptical that this amounts to a "significant or well-known work or collective body of work" as suggested by NAUTHOR. —BrechtBro (talk) 23:39, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
    Subject is mentioned briefly in four NYT dance reviews from the 80s. Three times as a dancer, and once as a choreographer . Of these, I think only the fourth would contribute anything to notability, though that would be very slight as it's tangential to the claim to notability as a writer.
    For the convenience of others, strongest sources I see added to the article are SFGate covering the museum show he co-curated, a review of Finding Tulsa in Art and Understanding and a feature in the LA Blade on Now I'm Here. —BrechtBro (talk) 03:55, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Comment. If the book/stage play PINS is the only notable thing about this page, then shouldn't we just create an article for that and then covert Jim Provenzano into a redirect? His career as a journalist seems pretty typical, and I haven't seen anyone bring up any of his other works in this discussion so far. Eric Schucht (talk) 01:14, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Delete Neutral now. Reviewing the links that Myrman has thrown into the article today (all incorrectly formatted bare refs and many not WP:Reliable sources), it appears that Provenzano's works do not constitute a "significant or well-known work or collective body of work". I could be convinced that the works are more significant if I saw WP:Reliable sources cited for each of them, a feature article or two in a good source about this subject, and removal of the distracting library collections, social media links, etc. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:36, 24 June 2026 (UTC)

Sjlebl (talk)Comment: This author has been a well known and very active notable LGBT journalist since at least 1992. He has been published in several of the community's most important periodicals, likely over 1,000 times. Perhaps this article should start with that, but it is a body of work by a single journalist that stands out within the LGBT community and is notable enough for Wiki.Sjlebl (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2026 (UTC)

If he is an important journalist, there will have been books or articles published about him, his life and his career in reputable sources. Where are they? -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:04, 25 June 2026 (UTC)
The author's page also gives quotes from additional published reviews that seem to have suffered from linkrot, but indicate that more sources do exist. Similarly, it looks like sources may exist to make a museum exhibit he curated notable. I also found a 1979 theatre review that discusses his acting. ~ le 🌸 valyn (talk) 00:31, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
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