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Permute instruction

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TLDR: largely dupliate of existing Gather/scatter (vector addressing) article.

Specifics of this article:

1. Appears to be largely similar to Gather/scatter (vector addressing) but with the editors unique and unsourced WP:OR
2. Recreation of a previously deleted article
3. None of the concepts / explaination of the topic are cited in any way
4. None of the inline references even reference the term "permute instructions" but only specific subsets
5. Only one among many of the wiki-linked articles on this page previously had used the term "permute instruction" until this editor added that term to the linked page.
6. The lead sentence cites an Intel document (page 5-356), and the cited page does not support any of the claims of the lead, instead that page about The FPCLASSPS instruction checks the packed single precision floating-point values -- which is unrelated to permute instructions -- furthermore, you cannot find the term "permute instructions" anywhere in that 5,000+ page document.

Admittedly there is some research that shows Permute instruction as a phrase referenced, but those articles seem to be referecning what is already covered in Gather/scatter article.

Looking at the hatnote added to Gather/scatter which links back to Permute instructions the editor claims add disambiguation reference "Register Gather Scatter" is actually also known as a vector permute, however my research still returned "gather/scatter" related articles with no direct refernece to the term permute instructions.

When considering the existing, well sourced, MOS conforming article titled Gather/scatter (vector addressing) which seems to be about the exact same concept, there seems no reason to keep this unsourced variant.

Of marginal note, the editor who created this article has been INDEF, and one of the things brought up at ANI was the pervasive editing in these areas but failing WP:CIR and exhibiting WP:BIT. His arguments in article talk and edits to technical articles exhibit WP:OR instead of citing reliable sources, this article is a perfect example of it.

What I've observed at other articles, and what seems to be here, is that the editor has been engaged in expanding articles of miniscule differences that they believe to be significant and then begin to boldly fork articles in an unsourced or poorly sourced way. This might be the case here.

TiggerJay (talk) 20:43, 18 August 2025 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Technology, Computing, and Software. TiggerJay (talk) 20:43, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
• Comment: Gather/scatter (vector addressing) is a sufficiently different concept than this article that a redirect/merge would not make sense. The similar terminology is misleading, the "scatter" type is rare and the "gather" type is often called "shuffle" or similar. Leaning towards WP:TNT. REAL_MOUSE_IRL talk 21:53, 18 August 2025 (UTC)
• Delete: WP:TNT. REAL_MOUSE_IRL is right. The article is misleadingly confusing and relies mainly on primary sources. It's unclear whether an article about this is necessary vs., e.g., a paragraph in SIMD under a list of common SIMD instructions. (This article combines both SIMD and non-SIMD instructions but there is not a lot to say about non-SIMD permutes) Helpful Raccoon (talk) 02:29, 19 August 2025 (UTC)

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