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The result was oppose merge. (non-admin closure) BhikhariInformer 📮 (Ping me or else I won't see it) 11:34, 24 June 2026 (UTC)
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I propose merging to ShinyHunters because it seems to be the same group. PhotographyEdits (talk) 13:42, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose, on the grounds that available secondary sources are either extrapolating from shared Telegram chats or uncritically repeating quotes from ShinyHunters themselves. The actual support for the claim of these groups being (or now being, at any rate) the same group is coming from a lot of "someone"s including supposedly members of/the leader of ShinyHunters, who may have any number of ulterior motives in saying so. Reliable sources (including Google) are designating them with two different UNCs. It seems like it is more of a loose alliance of coordinated groups, but it remains to be seen whether these two still operate largely independently in their public activity, so a merge would be premature at best. RaisedArizona (talk) 14:34, 10 June 2026 (UTC)
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- Note: this discussion has been included in the AfD sorting lists for the following topics: Computing and Internet. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 02:20, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Keep, only one of the cited sources seems to be taking the merger claims at face value. The pages should be kept separate, with these developments described in prose, until there is consensus among reliable sources that they are one and the same. And even then, it might make sense to keep them apart if their separate histories are individually notable. Justin Kunimune (talk) 21:10, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 22:40, 17 June 2026 (UTC) - Oppose, as there appears to be insufficient sources proving the groups are the same. Jishara (talk) 22:16, 18 June 2026 (UTC)
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