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1923 season 2
- Nominator(s): TheDoctorWho (talk) 11:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Late last year I took a deep dive into the Yellowstone franchise, watching the parent series and both prequels in a little under two months. Since then a sequel has premiered, and another is on the way; but at the time, 1923 was the series that I was most in awe with. From the storytelling to the production value, I became deeply obsessed with the show and realized how underdeveloped Wikipedia's coverage on it was. So I did what any rationale person would do: wrote an article about the second season... first (the first season is next on my list, then improving the parent article). After three months in the draft space, during which I wrote one of the most in-depth articles of my Wikipedia "career", I spent significant time polishing it off through a good article nomination, peer review, and copyedit from the guild. While the PR didn't get much activity, it helped me clear up many of the citation issues that would have arisen here. The result is an article I'm proud to bring to FAC and believe it meets the criteria. I look forward to addressing any comments or concerns the community may have. TheDoctorWho (talk) 11:11, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Comments from Pokelego
I will leave some comments sometime in the next few days. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:33, 2 April 2026 (UTC)
- "Season two was also noted for its positive economic impact in Montana and Texas, and set viewership records" Perhaps re-word this? The viewership records should either be a separate sentence or have changed wording, since it doesn't have a lot to do with the economic impact.
- Done
- Not super familiar with this kind of cast list formatting, but do cast lists need to be cited when done like this?
- Sourced the main cast primarily for the roles. The guest cast, along with the roles they play, appear in the closing credits of the episodes themselves. They should therefore be covered by the same concept as WP:CITEPLOT/WP:PLOTSOURCE I believe, in that the work itself serves as a primary source.
- Would it be possible to give some kind of synopsis of season 1 prior to the episode list? As someone who's never watched the show it's very confusing since I have no idea who these characters are or how they got into these situations initially.
- In a broader sense, the two seasons are connected closely enough that the brief premise given in the lead is essentially that of the first season as well (obviously just without going into much detail). I did attempt to briefly elaborate in the episode table here and there (why the Dutton ranch is having financial issues, why Zane and Alice are in jail, Teonna's situation and the fact that Spencer and Alex are separated is already mentioned). If you truly think it needs it, I could add a more in-detailed plot of season 1, although I'm not aware of any other featured season list that does and I'm not sure if it would be out of scope for this page?
- "In the series' final scene, however, they reconnecting once more, this time in an afterlife" Typo here. Also not sure if in "Despite the title of the series, the end of the second season extends into 1924" 1924 is meant to be italicized or not.
- Done on the first part. 1924 is not meant to be italicized as it refers to a year/setting, not a work.
- "Roché said he had mixed emotions filming this scene because, although violent, he believed it was well-composed." Not quite sure this sentence is needed, since it doesn't really add much and is a bit confusing.
- Removed
- "Photorealistic creature work was done by Rodeo FX, who created a wolf and a mountain lion; Folks VFX, who added elk; and Outpost VFX, who was responsible for cattle." Commas should be used instead of semi-colons here, since the bits after them are not independent clauses.
- Done
- What are the reliabilities of JoBlo Movie Network and The Playlist? I would also advise removing Screen Rant, since WP:VALNET sources are considered low quality for usage in FAC.
- ScreenRant removed. For JoBlo, there's an about page that clearly lists editorial oversight and (albeit brief), a history of the site. There's been little discussion about it at RSP over the years, but I can see it's been used in several promoted FA's within the last five years (RoboCop, Saving Private Ryan, Terminator 2: Judgement Day, and John Wick), which I believe speaks to it's reliability.
- The Playlist similarly has an about page, that mentions an editorial process. The author of the article this page is citing is the editor and chief. Additionally, that author has written for SPIN Magazine, MTV News, and IndieWire has covered both the site, and quoted the author at which point (if the about wasn't convincing enough), we'd likely be approaching subject matter expert territory.
- For the multiple citations attributed to the Whitfield storyline, I'd insert the multiple citations after the first sentence, and then distribute relevant citations after the particular reviewers for proper attribution.
- Done
@TheDoctorWho: Mostly some minor comments, but this is the bulk of my comments. I'd also go through and make sure you're careful about tensing, since I noticed the article tends to hop between present and past tense a fair bit. Ping me when the above are addressed.
- Thank you for the comments, should have time to get to these later today, tomorrow at the latest TheDoctorWho (talk) 10:12, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: I haven't checked for tensing yet, but I did address most of your comments. I left a few replies above just to see if it cleared up other concerns, or if not, for further input (mainly around plot and sources). TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- @TheDoctorWho I think that should be everything addressed. Happy to Support since I trust the tensing issue will be addressed (And is not a super big deal all things considered). Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:25, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Pokelego999: I haven't checked for tensing yet, but I did address most of your comments. I left a few replies above just to see if it cleared up other concerns, or if not, for further input (mainly around plot and sources). TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:04, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for the comments, should have time to get to these later today, tomorrow at the latest TheDoctorWho (talk) 10:12, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
Coordinator comment
This has been open for three weeks and has received just the single general support. Unless this nomination makes significant further progress towards a consensus to promote over the next three or four days I am afraid that it is liable to be archived. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:39, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
Comments from DaniloDaysOfOurLives
- I support this becoming a featured article. I cannot see any major issues with this - the only thing that confused me were that Sources #109 and #110 are listed as "AI Referred" by Cite Unseen, but I think this is a mistake. This seems good to go! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 19:54, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives: Quick clarity for you (or anyone else seeing this comment): I did use ChatGPT very sparingly only as part of my research process to find sources for part of this article. I did not use it to generate any text in this article nor did I input any information it gave me. Once I accessed the links it directed me to, I read them in full and verified the reliability of the sites myself. This caused tracking categories in those links, which were the only cause of the "AI Referred" message, but I have now removed those from the URLs. TheDoctorWho (talk) 23:19, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
Comments from Bgsu98 (4/20/26)
- Lead
- "Season two was developed after its creator and showrunner, Taylor Sheridan, determined that the story needed more episodes to reach a proper conclusion."
- "...and is set in Montana, United States, between 1923 and 1924." --> I personally hate offsetting "United States" with a comma – I would phrase this as "Montana, in the United States, between..." – but this is really just a personal preference.
- Episode summaries
- I will come back to review this when I have finished with the rest.
- Development
- I'm not sure "executive-produce" is a verb. Perhaps rephrase as "served as executive producers for the series".
- "The second season of 1923 cost $22 million per episode
to produce, totaling $176 million."
- Casting
- "Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren were both initially contracted only for the first season
only" - Is there a better word or phrase than "self-tape"?
- "Janet Montgomery, Augustus Prew, and Andy Dispensa appeared in the season, playing the characters Hillary, Paul, and Luca, respectively." --> Recommend rephrasing the section in italics, perhaps something like "joined the cast this season" or something similar.
- "but he ultimately believed it was his purpose." --> What does that mean?
- Writing
- "These include the Dutton ranch preparing for a harsh winter, attempts to prevent Whitfield from acquiring the property, dealing with cattle thieves..." --> This section in italics reads a little awkwardly.
- "The arc explores his morality and the group power dynamics between him and two sex workers, Christy and Lindy, whom he has been holding hostage, and Lindy becomes his sexual partner." --> Something about this wording sounds awkward.
- "Whitfield provides the origin story for the train station a frequent location in Yellowstone where major crimes go unpunished because the area is not populated
, meaning a jury could not be called." - "Another secondary storyline revolves around Geraghty's character's recovery..." --> That double possessive is super awkward.
- "for marrying interracially" --> Recommend rephrasing as "for interracial marriage".
- "Within both seasons, it was derived from the true story of such schools." --> Both awkwardly written and unclear.
- "During this time, she is
beingpursued..." - "Nieves noted that Cole Brings Plenty was excited for that aspect..." --> Recommend rephrasing/clarifying the section in italics.
- "A fictionalized version of Sal Maceo is featured this season after Spencer returns to the United States."
- "A new character to the plot is Mamie Fossett, a U.S. Marshal based in Anadarko, Oklahoma, who was also partially based on true events; a marshal of the same name worked in Indian Territory at a time when female law-enforcement officials were uncommon." --> A person is not an event; probably "based on a real person".
- "Carpenter attempted to research Fossett's life, but faced difficulty after finding that little had been written about her."
- "Although Carpenter's character narrative has her primarily interact with Teonna's..." --> I don't think "Teonna" needs the 's.
- "In the season's penultimate episode..."
- Production design
- "the station's lighting fixtures from the 1920s"
- "No snowfall occurred during production, except on the last day"
- "
Sometimes, a combination of the two had to be used, andsalt was added to ensure the horses had proper traction." --> Recommend deleting this phrase - "believing costuming to be essential to every character's story"
- I'm not sure "co-costume designer" is a real phrase.
- Filming
- "A week later, they were informed that production had been delayed by the 2023 Writers Guild of America strike."
- "Other Texas filming locations included Galveston, Lockhart, and Bartlett, which were made to appear as Fort Worth and Amarillo, Texas, and Anadarko, Oklahoma." --> You might also consider switching "stood in for" in place of "were made to appear as".
- "Carpenter's goal was to use her lower vocal register; she stated that the extreme heat in Texas assisted her
in this, but made filming both interior and exterior scenes uncomfortable." - "It was reported that he received applause from cast and crew afterward."
- "A body double was used for these scenes."
- "Prior to filming
them, Geraghty researched the symptoms of head injuries so he could properly portray the signs."
- Post-production
- "For Pete's horse accident, WeFX made digital doubles of both Guana and his horse."
- Impact
- "business owners criticized the Montana state legislature for not continuing film-tax credits so as to ensure that Montana remain the primary production location."
- "It was estimated that production of the second season would spend over $51 million in the Austin economy upon its move there." --> The section in italics reads awkwardly.
- "It was believed that hotels and businesses would benefit as well."
- "In the Greater Houston area, the program was one of two major productions, the other being season two of the Netflix series Mo, that was attributed to a 138% economic increase from 2023 to 2024, with a reported $27 million spent there." --> The section in italics reads awkwardly.
- Critical response
- JoBlo Movie Network is a real thing?!?
- "saying that while he frequently writes similar narratives, they always feel distinct from each other."
- "Andrew Murray considered season two to be too melodramatic and concluded that it is closer to a soap opera than a period drama."
- "Anita Singh to some extent agreed with this sentiment, but said that it is still an elegant narrative."
- "Kieran Fisher with /Film said that unlike other violent storylines, such as those at the boarding school which have a stronger purpose..."
- "and said that it would have better suited Sheridan's 2011 horror film, Vile."
User:TheDoctorWho: I will review the episode summaries in a little bit, but this should give you something to work on. Please let me know when you've had a chance to examine my comments. Bgsu98 (Talk) 21:55, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: I believe that I have addressed all your comments, rewording or clarifying things that you left in italics and adding or remove words/phrases where suggested. (Yes JoBlo Movie Network is a real thing). Thank you for the review! TheDoctorWho (talk) 23:15, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- Episode summaries
- 1
- "He visits a speakeasy, where McDowell informs him that Zane and Alice remain separated and in jail for miscegenation."
- "After escaping from her boarding school, Renaud and Kent continue hunting Teonna..." --> The way this sentence is structured, it sounds like Renaud and Kent are the ones who escaped from a boarding school, when I know that is not the case.
- 2
- "They discover that a hungry and likely rabid wolf has slaughtered the ranch's chickens"
- "the wolf bites Elizabeth, who is later forced to take a rabies vaccine."
- "Despite Maceo's warm hospitality toward Spencer for having saved Luca,"
- 3
- "where their doctor informs them that Zane is suffering from a subdural hematoma"
- 4
- "The sheriff of Fort Worth picks up Spencer and demands that Spencer continue delivering the whiskey so he can find the destination."
- 5
- "where Anders informs them that Teonna has fled across a long stretch of wide-open plains."
- "After discovering that Alexandra's connecting train had been canceled, Hillary and Paul invite her to join them."
- 6
- "After traveling hundreds of miles through freezing conditions, Alexandra awakens to discover they have run out of fuel during the night, far from civilization, and that Hillary and Paul have died from hypothermia."
User:TheDoctorWho: Please let me know when you have had a chance to examine these comments. Bgsu98 (Talk) 20:27, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Bgsu98: Done! TheDoctorWho (talk) 23:14, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- You don’t seem to like relative pronouns. 😉 Bgsu98 (Talk) 23:38, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support. I am going to suggest that you read the article again carefully to make sure you are using the correct verb tense (past v. present), as I get that plot summaries are generally rendered in the present, whereas production details are rendered in the past. Bgsu98 (Talk) 00:06, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
Support Olliefant
- Comments to come Olliefant (she/her) 05:50, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support Couldn't find any issues. Olliefant (she/her) 21:51, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
Source and image review
Image sectioning is fine. File:1923 season 2.jpg should have its NFCC#8 rationale capitalized. File:Anadarko 1901.jpg has a broken source. File:Ben Richardson at the Drinking Buddies premiere.jpg is there no better image? Banal ALT text if at all. What is "Taylor, Drew (March 15, 2026). "Every Taylor Sheridan Show, Ranked from Yee-Haw To Hell Naw". Archived from the original on March 28, 2026. Retrieved March 28, 2026."? What makes https://www.lonestarlive.com/, https://tasteofcountry.com/, and https://www.theupcoming.co.uk/2025/02/23/1923-season-two-show-review/ a reliable source? https://www.atlasofwonders.com/2022/12/where-was-1923-filmed.html has a very banal About Us so I must ask what makes it a reliable source? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 08:20, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus:
- Fixed the NFCC#8 and broken source issues.
- Unfourtunately no better images for Richardson.
- Were you speaking of the ALT text specifically on Richardson's photo or others as well?
- I've added a work for the Yee-Haw to Hell Naw source (it's from TheWrap and was one of the last sources added, so accidentally missed it).
- I did take a deeper dive into the reliabilities of Lone Star Live, the Upcoming, and Atlas of Wonders here during the peer review (noting in more specific detail for Atlas of Wonders, that its claim about being cited by other reliable media outlets is true (TheWrap, HuffingtonPost, Smithsonian Magazine) and that the founder of the site/author of the article being cited previously wrote for Condé Nast (), so that if the editorial staff on the about page isn't enough, it should meet WP:SPS/subject matter expert requirements).
- I have removed the Taste of Country after finding it's parent company is also the owner of JustJared which is heavy on gossip, and no mention of an about page or editorial process.
- Bar any modifications to the alt text pending your response, does this help address any concerns with sourcing? TheDoctorWho (talk) 17:42, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Re ALT: All of 'em. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:45, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- (Just a quick note for any coordinators watching this, Thursday-Sunday are my busy days I should be able to easily knock this out sometime
MondayTuesday afternoon (CT). TheDoctorWho (talk) 09:04, 2 May 2026 (UTC)- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I've attempted to beef up most of the alt text where possible, but while still remaining within the context of this article per MOS:ALTCON. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:47, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'd capitalize some of these, myself. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:09, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Capitalize some of what? All of the alt texts are in sentence case as most of the examples at WP:ALT show. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- Meant "alt=refer to caption", sorry. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:49, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Done! TheDoctorWho (talk) 08:55, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- I guess this is fine then, although I didn't recheck. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:20, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Done! TheDoctorWho (talk) 08:55, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Meant "alt=refer to caption", sorry. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 06:49, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: Capitalize some of what? All of the alt texts are in sentence case as most of the examples at WP:ALT show. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:51, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- I'd capitalize some of these, myself. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:09, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jo-Jo Eumerus: I've attempted to beef up most of the alt text where possible, but while still remaining within the context of this article per MOS:ALTCON. TheDoctorWho (talk) 18:47, 5 May 2026 (UTC)
- (Just a quick note for any coordinators watching this, Thursday-Sunday are my busy days I should be able to easily knock this out sometime
- Re ALT: All of 'em. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 12:45, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. FrB.TG (talk) 22:19, 16 May 2026 (UTC)
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