Annual report progress
(Note: I've moved this conversation from the "Next newsletter" thread above and re-threaded; it was starting to overwhelm the section and making it difficult to follow; revert if necessary. 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 10:41, 9 January 2026 (UTC))
Re the annual report: Copy and paste the 2024 report to the 2025 report, and then update it. It helps to replace known invalid values and dates with text like TKTKTK ("to come" in publishing jargon) so that old values don't get carried forward in error. There are links at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Newsletters. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:07, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Done, you can see it here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Membership/News/2025 Annual Report Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:51, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wow, looking at all this, it looks like a lot... did you see what I asked about whether we can get bots to help us? It might help us quite a bit. Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:55, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- The part that seems the hardest to me, and the part that I have only attempted to accomplish or watched others accomplish, is summarizing the requests activity: e.g. numbers of requesters and copy editors and mean days between request and copy edit end, which I think are probably accomplished by moving data onto spreadsheets and applying appropriate tools. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:30, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Other parts are mostly a matter of merely copying data, that is already calculated, from other pages, such as drive and blitz barnstar pages. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:34, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- I'm happy to help with the Annual Report; I'll strip out the old data and update where I can. 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 01:26, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Old data are now stripped out and replaced with placeholders (xxx); I've added a bit about the category cleanup too. @Wikieditor662:, I'm here if you need help adding or compiling data. I don't want to tread on any toes so do let me know if my 'help' is unwelcome. Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 05:24, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Your help is appreciated. I thought that I might be able to figure out how to do the requests statistics, but it's getting to mid-January, when the report has gone out in the past, and I have barely been successful in attempting such spreadsheet legerdemain. I can most likely copy over drive and blitz statistics to those relevant tables and do other brushup. Dhtwiki (talk) 08:04, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, as Dhtwiki said, your help is greatly appreciated! Wikieditor662 (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you both; I'll get to work collating the Requests data; I do work in spreadsheets and I'm happy to email them to you both if you want them. Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 02:19, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, and I suggest you apply to become a coordinator in the next election! Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, as well. I would like to have your spreadsheet when it's done, plus some information on how you move data from the requests page onto it in order to do the work, as I don't think that it's obvious. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:58, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- No problem, Dhtwiki – the uncompleted December requests still need collating. Writing a crib sheet shouldn't be too difficult. P.S., are you gonna tell Wikieditor662 about my past here or shall I? ;-) Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 10:53, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- I did not want to take away from the possibility that they were being intentionally ironic. It is wonderful to have such a full slate of active nominal coordinators backed up by a shadow coordinating team, as well as quite an active copy editing crew. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:50, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry for the late reply, I haven't seen this until now.
- I wasn't being ironic; but now that you bring it up, I'm genuinely curious. @Baffle gab1978 what happened?
- Wikieditor662 (talk) 06:51, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- You invited Baffle to become a coordinator. See the drop-down list under "What is our history?" at the project page. You will see that Baffle has a long history of being a coordinator, as have others whose activity is currently reduced and thus whom you may mistake for newcomers when they are actually experienced coordinators and prolific copy editors of long standing. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:12, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I see; they're actually longstanding here. But why did they stop? Or is that a secret? Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:16, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- You invited Baffle to become a coordinator. See the drop-down list under "What is our history?" at the project page. You will see that Baffle has a long history of being a coordinator, as have others whose activity is currently reduced and thus whom you may mistake for newcomers when they are actually experienced coordinators and prolific copy editors of long standing. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:12, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- I did not want to take away from the possibility that they were being intentionally ironic. It is wonderful to have such a full slate of active nominal coordinators backed up by a shadow coordinating team, as well as quite an active copy editing crew. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:50, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
- No problem, Dhtwiki – the uncompleted December requests still need collating. Writing a crib sheet shouldn't be too difficult. P.S., are you gonna tell Wikieditor662 about my past here or shall I? ;-) Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 10:53, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, as well. I would like to have your spreadsheet when it's done, plus some information on how you move data from the requests page onto it in order to do the work, as I don't think that it's obvious. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:58, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, and I suggest you apply to become a coordinator in the next election! Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:44, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you both; I'll get to work collating the Requests data; I do work in spreadsheets and I'm happy to email them to you both if you want them. Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 02:19, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you, as Dhtwiki said, your help is greatly appreciated! Wikieditor662 (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Your help is appreciated. I thought that I might be able to figure out how to do the requests statistics, but it's getting to mid-January, when the report has gone out in the past, and I have barely been successful in attempting such spreadsheet legerdemain. I can most likely copy over drive and blitz statistics to those relevant tables and do other brushup. Dhtwiki (talk) 08:04, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- Old data are now stripped out and replaced with placeholders (xxx); I've added a bit about the category cleanup too. @Wikieditor662:, I'm here if you need help adding or compiling data. I don't want to tread on any toes so do let me know if my 'help' is unwelcome. Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 05:24, 8 January 2026 (UTC)
- The part that seems the hardest to me, and the part that I have only attempted to accomplish or watched others accomplish, is summarizing the requests activity: e.g. numbers of requesters and copy editors and mean days between request and copy edit end, which I think are probably accomplished by moving data onto spreadsheets and applying appropriate tools. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:30, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
- Wow, looking at all this, it looks like a lot... did you see what I asked about whether we can get bots to help us? It might help us quite a bit. Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:55, 4 January 2026 (UTC)
(←) Hi @Wikieditor662:, there's no secret; I just thought it was about time someone else had a chance to be a coordinator, and there was probably a bit of burnout if I'm honest. I took a long break in early-to-mid-2025 so you may not have seen me around when you joined the Guild. Being an emeritus gives me an excuse to stay around though. I appreciate the sentiment of your suggestion; never say never, as they say. :-) You may find a leisurely trawl through our archives useful, idk. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 22:40, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- Well if you're already serving as one, why not come back officially? Wikieditor662 (talk) 01:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Copy-editor data
If you want to know how many copy-edit requests you did in 2025, including those requested in 2024 and completed in 2025, here's the scores on the doers in alphabetical order:
| Copy-editor | Requests copy-edited |
Assists |
|---|---|---|
| 2A12:A800:2:1: 45:141:215:28 | 1 | 0 |
| AstralAlley | 2 | 0 |
| Augnablik | 5 | 1 |
| Baffle gab1978 | 34 | 7 |
| Bearian | 1 | 0 |
| Benetsee | 6 | 0 |
| BlueStaticHorse | 1 | 0 |
| Cardboard Moose | 3 | 0 |
| Crestfalling | 1 | 0 |
| Dhtwiki | 23 | 4 |
| EricXXue | 11 | 0 |
| Fluffernutter | 7 | 0 |
| GoldRomean | 2 | 0 |
| Grumpylawnchair | 3 | 0 |
| HC226 | 1 | 0 |
| InduratePedant | 0 | 1 |
| IPOfAFlower | 1 | 0 |
| Izlhyl | 1 | 0 |
| Jonesey95 | 2 | 0 |
| KhantWiki | 1 | 0 |
| Kingsacrificer | 2 | 0 |
| Lamona | 2 | 0 |
| LastJabberwocky | 23 | 4 |
| Levixius | 0 | 1 |
| Lfstevens | 1 | 1 |
| Littenberg | 10 | 0 |
| MaddieLeQuire | 1 | 1 |
| Malvoliox | 1 | 0 |
| Mark Gould | 5 | 0 |
| Miniapolis | 12 | 2 |
| Moritoriko | 8 | 0 |
| Mox Eden | 80 | 3 |
| N7fty | 1 | 0 |
| Nedia020415 | 1 | 0 |
| NuanceQueen | 2 | 0 |
| Odanr | 5 | 0 |
| One-summer-day | 1 | 0 |
| Phibeatrice | 1 | 0 |
| Pollosito | 1 | 0 |
| Pompeivsmangvs | 1 | 0 |
| Prime6421 | 0 | 1 |
| PrinceTortoise | 2 | 0 |
| Pyrrhic victor | 1 | 0 |
| Reidgreg | 2 | 1 |
| Rosaece | 1 | 1 |
| Seantavius | 2 | 0 |
| SilkPyjamas | 19 | 0 |
| Smallangryplanet | 6 | 0 |
| Snugglebuns | 1 | 0 |
| SpringProof | 1 | 0 |
| Tarlby | 2 | 0 |
| TheOnlyZac | 1 | 0 |
| TNM101 | 2 | 0 |
| Toffee Dude | 2 | 0 |
| UsedBooks | 0 | 1 |
| Veggiegalaxy | 2 | 0 |
| VergilSparkles | 0 | 2 |
| Voorts | 5 | 0 |
| Wikieditor662 | 6 | 0 |
| Zzz plant | 2 | 0 |
Data extracted from the 2025 archive spreadsheet. Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 11:05, 21 January 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for doing this. I have thought about how to calculate the above but never arrived at a workable table. First there is formatting the raw data from the very complete requests archive, which, however, doesn't easily lend itself to such summaries as above. Even with some data loaded onto a LibreOffice spreadsheet, I could not find a count-unique function, which would be suitable, would certainly be a Unix utility, and should be a part of any spreadsheet. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:03, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
- Yes it's not obvious; the way I extracted these data was to copy-paste the c/es' names into a new temporary spreadsheet, sort them into alphabetical order, then either manually count the frequencies or for those with many entries, I copied the occurrences of that name into another new temporary spreadsheet to see how many lines there were. Assists were counted manually. It's a bit roundabout but it works! I'll use the same method for requesters. Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 22:56, 22 January 2026 (UTC)
Requesters
I haven't done a table for the 140 requesters, but here are those who made six or more requests in 2025:
- 6 requests
- Chchcheckit
- DareshMohan
- Dmartin969
- Grumpylawnchair
- MarioSoulTruthFan
- PizzaKing13
- 8 requests
- Z. Patterson
- 9 requests
- Boneless Pizza
- GnocchiFan
- Olliefant (renamed from OlifanofmrTennant )
- Tomobe03
- 11 requests
- Harizotoh9
- 15 request
- Another Believer
- 22 requests
- Tintor2
Cheers, 🅑🅐🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅰🅱 00:31, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
Nearly done
I've added the Requests page statistics – checks and corrections are welcome – the only missing stats are those for the number of barnstars issued in 2025. I was planning to simply add together the number of entries on each barnstar page but I realised multiple awards are given for different achievements. So I'm not aware of the way these award are calculated or awarded, so I'll have to defer adding those stats. Please let me know if I've overlooked anything, obvious or not, and I'm ready to had it over to the community. Dhtwiki is invited to write something deep and meaningful in the final section, if they wish. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 11:38, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for all your hard work on the annual report.
- I thought that the barnstar number would would be achieved by simply counting by inspection. However, we are somewhat generous with leaderboard barnstars, where a stricter accounting would make for cutoffs past the highest placing five editors, with exceptions for ties for 5th place. We are apt to give out stars way past that but not consistently so. Because haphazard, a numerical count of such awards is somewhat meaningless. A better statistic might be the number of editors substantially contributing (i.e. doing more than just signing up, although they also serve who merely sign up) to drives and blitzes, and we already have that.
- A pair of statistics that I recently saw were incomplete, and which you haven't mentioned, were the number of entries on the mailing and participants lists. I thought of taking those by copying the lists into an app capable of counting lines (the last newsletter I sent out went to 847 accounts; so, a bit hard to count by inspection).
- Another bit that has to be updated is that the backlog is tending toward 1600, not 1700, articles. We should have a graph to match that. User:Jonesey95 has been updating monthly numbers in the past, but we now have new graphs to refer to. Should we use those, and how are they referenced?
- Dhtwiki (talk) 20:28, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- That last point should be disregarded, except for wanting a graph. The backlog stood at 1747 articles at the end of 2025. It was at 1636 at the end of January 2026. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:54, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, review and clarification about the awarded barnstars; that stat is difficult to track so yes, probably best omitted. I've added the number of copy-editors who dealt with requests, it was 60 last year (2025). I've also tweaked a few stats in the introduction; the October requests completion time was 97.6 days and the current REQ backlog includes two months (Jan and Feb). I've also noted all 2025 requests have been dealt with. It's getting there. :) Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 08:41, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry to barge in, but regarding a graph: ChartDirect would be the easiest and quickest way, as it's not yet possible to hide certain values from a graph without workarounds like in the yearly graph. It is also still not possible to set a height for the graph, and using this method, one can only align left, right, or center.
- Invocation starting from January 2025 and including January 2026 would be:
- {{ChartDirect | type = line | x = January,February,March,April,May,June,July,August,September,October,November,December,January 2026 | y1 = 2309,2464,2210,2358,2127,2275,2125,2184,1880,2114,1723,1747,1636 | y1Title = Articles in Backlog | align = left | width = 400 | border = yes | source = [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Progress]]}}
- Hope that helps. LightlySeared (talk) 19:53, 8 February 2026 (UTC) Edited 20:10, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- I have updated the graph at File:Copyeditors progress.png if you want that instead. Either way works for me. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:14, 9 February 2026 (UTC)
- That last point should be disregarded, except for wanting a graph. The backlog stood at 1747 articles at the end of 2025. It was at 1636 at the end of January 2026. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:54, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
(←) I've created the topsheet here; feel free to adjust anything as needed. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 08:48, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- I have added some closing thoughts to the newsletter itself. Check to see if what is there is correct or if more needs to be added. As far as the topsheet, I think that credit should go to "Your Guild coordinators [without a complete listing] and Baffle gab1978", as you have done so much, if not most, of the work. The same should apply to the newsletter itself. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:50, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- +1 Miniapolis 00:32, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks Dhtwiki; that's a departure from past practice and I don't feel the need for special credit. I'd like to have seen more coordinators collaborating on the report – perhaps next year. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 01:31, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- Actually, you have been acknowledged that way in the past. You are in large part THE author of that report. But I agree that just corporate authorship is appropriate, as there are other non-coordinators who have done special duty, beyond copy editing (e.g. Jonesey (various things) and Lightlyseared and Wracking (for setting up the new graphics)). To try to give special credit to some risks being unfair to others. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:21, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks Dhtwiki; that's a departure from past practice and I don't feel the need for special credit. I'd like to have seen more coordinators collaborating on the report – perhaps next year. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 01:31, 15 March 2026 (UTC)
- +1 Miniapolis 00:32, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
Sent
- Annual Report topsheet sent to 857 accounts on 05:35, 31 March 2026 (UTC), via Special:MassMessage. I did not abbreviate subject heading as much as I should have. I hope that that is the only hiccup. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:48, 31 March 2026 (UTC)
February 2026 blitz
A new blitz page, for February, is here. The 15th to the 21st seems the likeliest time. What about theme? I've penciled in the backlog from July–August 2024, and all requests. However, some, especially User:Jonesey95, were thinking of addressing shortest articles as a blitz theme. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:07, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
- Short articles might be fun for the shortest month. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:23, 6 February 2026 (UTC)
- Could you to do a pet scan, as you did above, under "Drive-by tagging of many TV station articles", for shortest articles needing copy edit and set up a list on the blitz page? Looking at the pet scan parameters, I don't see how you narrowed the output to only those articles needing copy edit, although it's obvious from its URL. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:11, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- I was hoping for some help setting up the list. I will go ahead and announce the focus of the blitz to be on oldest articles and requests, as it is getting very late to do so. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:58, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Agree with Dhtwiki. We can only do the possible, and the perfect shouldn't be the enemy of the good. Miniapolis 23:39, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry, I missed this request. The petscan list is a live query of the 100 shortest articles tagged for copy editing. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:05, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- Jonesey95, do you have a link to the Petscan list? Miniapolis 21:06, 12 February 2026 (UTC) I don't have the hang of PetScan yet :-). Miniapolis 21:08, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- I was thinking of using the petscan list, up-to-date or no, but the added rigamarole is not something I have done before, and time was getting on. Although shortest articles during the shortest month is a cute concept, we can undertake such a theme during any blitz. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:32, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- Here's the petscan list. If you want something that is easy to process, go to the Output tab, choose "Plain text" at the top of the screen, and click "Do it!" – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:44, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- I was thinking of using the petscan list, up-to-date or no, but the added rigamarole is not something I have done before, and time was getting on. Although shortest articles during the shortest month is a cute concept, we can undertake such a theme during any blitz. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:32, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- Could you to do a pet scan, as you did above, under "Drive-by tagging of many TV station articles", for shortest articles needing copy edit and set up a list on the blitz page? Looking at the pet scan parameters, I don't see how you narrowed the output to only those articles needing copy edit, although it's obvious from its URL. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:11, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
- Not to insist, but if collaborations are still on the table, we could do something where we choose the topic of another Wikiproject, and in return they give us a shoutout (or something similar to this). Might help us gain more members. Wikieditor662 (talk) 06:43, 8 February 2026 (UTC)
- Collaborations might be helpful, but they are probably hard to arrange. As far as gaining more members, we have around 850, according to the mailing list. The goal might better be to have their involvement in copy editing entire backlog articles and removing their c/e tags, but without joining drives or blitzes, as that would place an increased burden on coordinators' doing the bookkeeping. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:02, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
- How would we get people to want to copy edit backlog articles without drives or blitzes? What would incentivize them to do this? Wikieditor662 (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- That's the trick. However, they have shown enough interest in copy editing to sign up. In my case, it was a matter of knowing that I could be of help, my knowledge of proper written English being good enough for that. Of course, I didn't mind earning some marks of appreciation along the way, but I was correcting mistakes before I got involved in drives and blitzes. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- So would it be a good idea to reach out to other wikiprojects, and propose to them, that we'll encourage our members to copyedit articles from their subject, and in return, they'll promote articles that they'll ask people to copyedit? Also, do most wikiprojects have leaders like this one does, and if not, how else could we reach out? Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- You seem to have a good idea about how collaborations should work. However, we must not have done many of them for a reason: one reason probably is that such collaborations require more administrative work (e.g. setting up of a table of articles to focus on); another might be that they have not produced much in the way of enhanced interest in pure copy editing. Each wiki project most likely has coordinators. If not, then they almost certainly have a project talk page where their members can be reached. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:49, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
- So, just to be sure that we're on the same page here, are you okay with me reaching out to other groups to offer collaboration per the terms you suggested? It doesn't have to be all at once; it can be slowly over time. Wikieditor662 (talk) 00:59, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- I don't want to throw cold water on your enthusiasm, but I am not eager to see you spend a lot of time on this. I don't remember having seen you do much in terms of ordinary coordinator chores—reviewing, policing the requests page, answering questions, etc–where you might be of help. You have done a splendid amount of copy editing for the drives (a caretaker star in November 2025; wow!), but you haven't participated in recent blitzes (I see you started a 10K article on the 20th of this month; so, you haven't been completely absent). You could still be thinking about your proposal. You might eventually come up with a plan that we would like, especially if you seemed ready to handle the extra administrative work that it would probably involve. Dhtwiki (talk) 07:18, 25 February 2026 (UTC) (edited 23:26, 23 June 2026 (UTC))
- I was planning on finishing the 10K article for the blitz, but it was interrupted by an editor who was initially against copyediting the article due to its FA status; after some debate they eventually relented, however, by the time this happened the blitz had already finished.
- For the other things, such as people asking questions, many of the other coordinators here are quite fast and manage to get a hold of answering these before I get a chance to. Do you have advice on things I could do that wouldn't be already done by the others?
- Wikieditor662 (talk) 18:22, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- How did you come to edit Genghis Khan? I didn't see a copy edit template before you started and I didn't see it on requests.
- As far as coordinator tasks, I don't think that we do enough reviewing of newcomers articles. We could leave you more to do in other areas. You could probably try your hand at announcing the next drive or blitz, as we're not always terribly prompt in doing so (the March drive is off to a somewhat late start, although I think that all necessary tasks have been completed; but further checking that it's been done right wouldn't hurt). Would you like to be involved in calculating barnstars and handing out such awards (not all at once; we tend to divide up those responsibilities for any particular event, as those tasks can be quite onerous)? You can probably get to doing such things before others get around to it. You just have to watch for your chance. Or, request the right to do it for the next event. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:06, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- For the template added to Genghis Khan, look here . The edits were reverted per the discussion I showed you.
Would you like to be involved in calculating barnstars and handing out such awards (not all at once; we tend to divide up those responsibilities for any particular event, as those tasks can be quite onerous)?
I thought these were already completed by Romean and Jonesey? And isn't the March drive already announced? Also, when you talk about reviewing newcomer articles, is that for blitzes/drives or in other areas? Wikieditor662 (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2026 (UTC)- But where was the need for the Ghengis Khan article requested? I'm talking about there being either a {{copy edit}} template (not {{GOCEinuse}}) or an entry on the requests page.
- GoldRomean and Jones passed out the February blitz barnstars, but there is the March drive to contend with. While the drive is ongoing there are apt to be malformed entries on the signup page to correct and articles by newer editors to be reviewed. At the end, the signup page should be closed, edited for the math adding up (especially with the leaderboard matching the individual entries), the barnstars calculated (Miniapolis usually does that, with the script that they are almost sole masters of, but, if your programming skills are up to it, you might try your hand at that), and distributed (which I often try to do but am willing to share that considerable duty with you). Dhtwiki (talk) 05:44, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
But where was the need for the Ghengis Khan article requested? I'm talking about there being either a {{copy edit}} template (not {{GOCEinuse}}) or an entry on the requests page.
I thought that it was also non-requested articles that could be copyedited, just that requested/old ones got 50% bonus points?While the drive is ongoing there are apt to be malformed entries on the signup page to correct
Could you explain what you mean by that?articles by newer editors to be reviewed
meaning reviewing articles they've submitted as copyediting to make sure they've done it correctly?- Wikieditor662 (talk) 18:31, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
- I don't want to throw cold water on your enthusiasm, but I am not eager to see you spend a lot of time on this. I don't remember having seen you do much in terms of ordinary coordinator chores—reviewing, policing the requests page, answering questions, etc–where you might be of help. You have done a splendid amount of copy editing for the drives (a caretaker star in November 2025; wow!), but you haven't participated in recent blitzes (I see you started a 10K article on the 20th of this month; so, you haven't been completely absent). You could still be thinking about your proposal. You might eventually come up with a plan that we would like, especially if you seemed ready to handle the extra administrative work that it would probably involve. Dhtwiki (talk) 07:18, 25 February 2026 (UTC) (edited 23:26, 23 June 2026 (UTC))
- So, just to be sure that we're on the same page here, are you okay with me reaching out to other groups to offer collaboration per the terms you suggested? It doesn't have to be all at once; it can be slowly over time. Wikieditor662 (talk) 00:59, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
- You seem to have a good idea about how collaborations should work. However, we must not have done many of them for a reason: one reason probably is that such collaborations require more administrative work (e.g. setting up of a table of articles to focus on); another might be that they have not produced much in the way of enhanced interest in pure copy editing. Each wiki project most likely has coordinators. If not, then they almost certainly have a project talk page where their members can be reached. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:49, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
- So would it be a good idea to reach out to other wikiprojects, and propose to them, that we'll encourage our members to copyedit articles from their subject, and in return, they'll promote articles that they'll ask people to copyedit? Also, do most wikiprojects have leaders like this one does, and if not, how else could we reach out? Wikieditor662 (talk) 20:01, 13 February 2026 (UTC)
- That's the trick. However, they have shown enough interest in copy editing to sign up. In my case, it was a matter of knowing that I could be of help, my knowledge of proper written English being good enough for that. Of course, I didn't mind earning some marks of appreciation along the way, but I was correcting mistakes before I got involved in drives and blitzes. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- How would we get people to want to copy edit backlog articles without drives or blitzes? What would incentivize them to do this? Wikieditor662 (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2026 (UTC)
- Collaborations might be helpful, but they are probably hard to arrange. As far as gaining more members, we have around 850, according to the mailing list. The goal might better be to have their involvement in copy editing entire backlog articles and removing their c/e tags, but without joining drives or blitzes, as that would place an increased burden on coordinators' doing the bookkeeping. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:02, 11 February 2026 (UTC)
(←) @Wikieditor662: malformed entries are those that break the wikicode, do not conform to the standard layout, such as an editor recording all of their copy-edits in a single line, rather than as a bulletted list format. Also, edits that break the wikicode formatting (a missing '|', '[[' or '{' for example), custom signatures on the page, etc. And someone may mess up the leaderboard or other page furniture. meaning reviewing articles they've submitted as copyediting to make sure they've done it correctly? Yes that's correct, a few checks to ensure an appropriate c/e has been done, not just typo fixes. Editors occasionally claim articles they haven't really worked on. Hope that's clearer. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 22:28, 27 February 2026 (UTC)
(←) The only articles that should count towards blitz or drive credit are ones where copy edit is requested in one form or another. The 50% bonus is given only at the end of drives, for copy editing the oldest articles and (usually all) requests, but only the articles with more recent c/e templates should be included for credit, without the editor receiving the bonus. This should have been made clear in the blitz and drive instructions. If not then let us know where ambiguity exists. Dhtwiki (talk) 09:54, 28 February 2026 (UTC)
- But told me here after I asked about this specifically:
We ask that newer copy editors work with articles on the backlog (i.e. those tagged with a copy edit template), and only work on articles on the requests page when they have gained some experience. Other than that, there are no restrictions.
, doesn't that contradict what you're saying now? Wikieditor662 (talk) 22:23, 28 February 2026 (UTC)- That is a contradiction. However, I'm having a hard time searching the record of this talk page for when I said it. Would you point to where I said it. The "We ask that newer copy editors..." sounds like an instruction, but it's possible that I was using an editorial "we". In any case, it's now obvious that what was said was too broad a statement and, if an instruction, needs to be changed. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:47, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
Would you point to where I said it
the "here" from my previous message is linked to that page; I made the link longer so you can see it better. Wikieditor662 (talk) 04:51, 1 March 2026 (UTC)- I see it now. However, "We ask that newer copy editors work with articles on the backlog..." should have limited the scope of "Other than that, there are no restrictions." Your article was not part of the backlog. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:46, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry, it was a little confusing, I don't believe at the time I realized the requests page was different from the backlog. Anyhow, by this point, I'm not sure if I'm new anymore, and I also think that
we ask
doesn't seem to indicate that it's required. Wikieditor662 (talk) 21:57, 1 March 2026 (UTC)- Taken by itself, that sentence might be confusing; but, taken with the drive and blitz instructions, it should be clear that the backlog and requests are different and that barnstar awards are given for work on articles already tagged. Perhaps "newer" could be "new". "We ask" is a polite way of saying it, where "we require", or some such, sounds too demanding. If you see how our instructions could be more clearly worded, then you could suggest changes. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:55, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- So is it required that an article be requested to be copyedited (either in the requests page or with the tag)? I would advise against doing that, because many other articles could also use improvement. Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:15, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- You can copy edit any article that you want to edit. Only articles tagged with {{copy edit}} and its sibling tags, along with pages posted on the Requests page, can be counted for our blitzes and drives. I hope that is clear. If you have suggestions on better wording for our drive pages, please offer it here. This is the first time in my 13 years with the GOCE that I have encountered this confusion. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- The wording itself came from a personal reply from Dhtwiki (which he later clarified), not from the drive page. And even if it was, if you haven't had a problem with this in 13 years, then it probably doesn't need changing anyway. Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:05, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- In addition, if you come across a featured article, or one that is a candidate for such status, that article is less likely to need copy editing, and certainly putting the {{GOCEinuse}} template out, claiming exclusivity of editing, should not be done, especially if you see recent editing activity. One time that it's advisable to at least tune in and follow along with a featured article candidacy, is when you yourself has done the preliminary copy editing, usually through the requests page. Then, you will see how your work has been received, and you may be able to help with further copy editing, having come to know the concepts and language involved well, if you've done your work conscientiously. In general, as Jonesey has implied, this project is here to put aright those articles in more dire need of copy editing, sometimes in order just to make them intelligible. That's what the barnstars are for. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:40, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- The wording itself came from a personal reply from Dhtwiki (which he later clarified), not from the drive page. And even if it was, if you haven't had a problem with this in 13 years, then it probably doesn't need changing anyway. Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:05, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- You can copy edit any article that you want to edit. Only articles tagged with {{copy edit}} and its sibling tags, along with pages posted on the Requests page, can be counted for our blitzes and drives. I hope that is clear. If you have suggestions on better wording for our drive pages, please offer it here. This is the first time in my 13 years with the GOCE that I have encountered this confusion. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:31, 4 March 2026 (UTC)
- So is it required that an article be requested to be copyedited (either in the requests page or with the tag)? I would advise against doing that, because many other articles could also use improvement. Wikieditor662 (talk) 02:15, 3 March 2026 (UTC)
- Taken by itself, that sentence might be confusing; but, taken with the drive and blitz instructions, it should be clear that the backlog and requests are different and that barnstar awards are given for work on articles already tagged. Perhaps "newer" could be "new". "We ask" is a polite way of saying it, where "we require", or some such, sounds too demanding. If you see how our instructions could be more clearly worded, then you could suggest changes. Dhtwiki (talk) 22:55, 2 March 2026 (UTC)
- Sorry, it was a little confusing, I don't believe at the time I realized the requests page was different from the backlog. Anyhow, by this point, I'm not sure if I'm new anymore, and I also think that
- I see it now. However, "We ask that newer copy editors work with articles on the backlog..." should have limited the scope of "Other than that, there are no restrictions." Your article was not part of the backlog. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:46, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
- That is a contradiction. However, I'm having a hard time searching the record of this talk page for when I said it. Would you point to where I said it. The "We ask that newer copy editors..." sounds like an instruction, but it's possible that I was using an editorial "we". In any case, it's now obvious that what was said was too broad a statement and, if an instruction, needs to be changed. Dhtwiki (talk) 04:47, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
Barnstars
I have made a barstar table here. Please check and distribute. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:52, 23 February 2026 (UTC)
- All done; I double-checked most of them against the blitz page as I went. Cheers, GoldRomean (talk) 00:46, 24 February 2026 (UTC)
March 2026 drive
Jonesey has started the drive page. I have added December to the backlog; otherwise, we would offer fewer old articles than were copy edited in January 2026. Dhtwiki (talk) 07:48, 25 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for tidying up my first draft. I wanted to get at least a placeholder published. February is short! – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:31, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for being so watchful. I see that you updated the Wikipedia:Community bulletin board announcement as well. I have put in a request for the watchlist message to run from February 27 to March 5. I have been putting the end date plus 1, which seems necessary to get the message up for the full seven days (the maximum usually allowed). However, I haven't been good at checking that the message is up for that long. So, please be on the lookout. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:23, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
- The barnstar page is up, thanks to my spouse and after much wailing and gnashing of teeth (long story). All the best, Miniapolis 20:35, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you. GoldRomean seems to be handing out the barnstars. BTW, the watchlist message did run the full seven days, which means that end-date-plus-1 is necessary. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:36, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- +1 to the thanks. Barnstars have been distributed :). GoldRomean (talk) 23:54, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- ...all distributed except yours, and now that's been done. I wasn't sure whether you had taken care of yourself. When giving out barnstars, I usually qualify my "I'm finished" phrase with "except for mine", or WTTE. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:25, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- Gotcha, will keep that in mind. And thanks :). GoldRomean (talk) 15:34, 5 April 2026 (UTC)
- ...all distributed except yours, and now that's been done. I wasn't sure whether you had taken care of yourself. When giving out barnstars, I usually qualify my "I'm finished" phrase with "except for mine", or WTTE. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:25, 4 April 2026 (UTC)
- +1 to the thanks. Barnstars have been distributed :). GoldRomean (talk) 23:54, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you. GoldRomean seems to be handing out the barnstars. BTW, the watchlist message did run the full seven days, which means that end-date-plus-1 is necessary. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:36, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- The barnstar page is up, thanks to my spouse and after much wailing and gnashing of teeth (long story). All the best, Miniapolis 20:35, 3 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for being so watchful. I see that you updated the Wikipedia:Community bulletin board announcement as well. I have put in a request for the watchlist message to run from February 27 to March 5. I have been putting the end date plus 1, which seems necessary to get the message up for the full seven days (the maximum usually allowed). However, I haven't been good at checking that the message is up for that long. So, please be on the lookout. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:23, 26 February 2026 (UTC)
April 2026 blitz
Please see the April blitz page that I have set up. It's set to run from the 12th to the 18th, but that can be changed. September and October 2024 backlog articles, and all requests, are penciled in as themes. Should that be changed? Dhtwiki (talk) 10:25, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
Barnstars
A barnstar table is up, to be checked and for barnstars to be distributed. Dhtwiki (talk) 10:44, 20 April 2026 (UTC)
April 2026 newsletter
I have, barely, started setting up the April 2026 newsletter page. Much work remains, but it should go out in time for the start of the April blitz. Dhtwiki (talk) 10:41, 7 April 2026 (UTC)
- I have completed adding all the statistical information. So, the newsletter can go out soon. Please check for any errors or omissions. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:21, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks as always! LGTM; I made some minor edits. GoldRomean (talk) 00:37, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
Sent
Newsletter sent to 664 accounts on 09:28 10 April 2026 (UTC) via Special:MassMessage. Note that almost 200 accounts were recently removed en masse from the mailing list. Dhtwiki (talk) 09:36, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
Category checking
Previously, I used to see a comment in the 'Articles needing copy edit' category pages which said something like the articles have been checked for appropriate placing of copy edit tags. These days, I do not see it, so is this not being done or has it been stopped permanently? Thanks, TNM101 (chat) 16:30, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- This has probably stopped entirely, although we probably could use with a culling of articles tagged by over-eager editors. We had quite an increase of total articles during the March drive, and that can be dispiriting to those who are actually doing the copy editing. I've noticed that there are particular editors who place a lot of tags (and without explaining exactly why). I also suspect that new articles are somewhat automatically being tagged, although I could be wrong. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:31, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- I sometimes still do this checking; you can see the results at Category:Wikipedia articles needing copy edit from May 2025. I click on each article in the category to ensure that any copy edit templates are placed for a good reason (I am very generous with my definition of "good reason"). I occasionally make a quick edit to resolve a limited-scope problem, or replace the copy edit template with a more appropriate cleanup template, or remove the copy edit template entirely for articles that are not suitable (IMO) for copy editing. Articles unsuitable for copy editing include those that have extensive text but no sources. When I get through a typical monthly category of 200+ articles, I can usually reduce the backlog count by ten or so articles, eliminating time that might be wasted by a GOCE copy editor and redirecting the work to a more appropriate queue, if needed. I do not perform this task with any regularity or in any systematic way; it's just fun for me, so I do it sometimes. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:14, 24 May 2026 (UTC)
May 2026 drive
I have created a page for the May 2026 drive (May starts a week from Friday). I have listed October to December 2024, and January to February 2025, as the oldest months (234 articles in total), as well as all requests (29 articles as of now). Dhtwiki (talk) 22:40, 23 April 2026 (UTC) (edited 22:42, 23 April 2026 (UTC))
- Hello, I copyedited this article Benin City, which was listed from April 2024. Not sure how this one was left behind, but does it count in the oldest tagged articles? TNM101 (chat) 16:24, 8 May 2026 (UTC)
- I saw that that article had popped up on the backlog. The April 2024 tag reappeared when someone reverted all the edits going back to November 2024. Because I didn't see that it actually had been copy edited, I didn't remove the template, while adding back the copy edited version, or give the template the current date. So, I think it counts as "old" and you can score it as such. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:53, 9 May 2026 (UTC)
Barnstars
The barnstar table is up, except for the overall totals. Dhtwiki, would you mind doing that eventually? I'll be happy to give out the barnstars later today, but the script business has fried me a bit :-). In solidarity, Miniapolis 13:22, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Miniapolis I think you may not have seen the updated table that I generated the other day using a modified version of the script (modifications as suggested by Dhtwiki). You can find the latest version of the table here. Itcouldbepossible Talk 14:04, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have checked the barnstar table, as well as Itcouldbepossible's table, and both now seem in line with each other. A final check and barnstars can be given out. Dhtwiki (talk) 20:24, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'll move Itcouldbepossible's totals line to the barnstar-page table when I get to it. In solidarity, Miniapolis 20:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dhtwiki, for doing that. I've started giving out the barnstars; GreenRedFlag (indeffed for UPE) is on the leaderboard, but there's no drive entry. Never a dull moment. In solidarity, Miniapolis 23:28, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Miniapolis Just a note regarding the GreenRedFlag. If you check the page under my userspace, you'll see the latest version of the leaderboard that my script generated automatically. The old leaderboard version still had GreenRedFlag's entry on it simply because their name was never manually removed from the main drive page. However, since their actual log of articles was completely removed from the Drive page after they got indeffed for UPE, the script completely bypassed them and didn't calculate their numbers at all, which is why they rightfully don't show up on the script-generated version. Just wanted to clear that up so there's no confusion about how the script handled it! Itcouldbepossible Talk 14:02, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks, Dhtwiki, for doing that. I've started giving out the barnstars; GreenRedFlag (indeffed for UPE) is on the leaderboard, but there's no drive entry. Never a dull moment. In solidarity, Miniapolis 23:28, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- I'll move Itcouldbepossible's totals line to the barnstar-page table when I get to it. In solidarity, Miniapolis 20:42, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- I have checked the barnstar table, as well as Itcouldbepossible's table, and both now seem in line with each other. A final check and barnstars can be given out. Dhtwiki (talk) 20:24, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
(←) Thanks for the explanation, Itcouldbepossible; I didn't know that it's GOCE policy to remove the entries of blocked editors and, frankly, don't care enough to sift through the history for whodunnit. Whoever did, though, should have also removed them from the leaderboard. In solidarity, Miniapolis 23:24, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
- I was curious as to who did it, as I only had a vague memory of its being done. See here for removal of the the GreenRedFlag's entry and here for not-quite-complete removal of leaderboard entries. Hmm. If Itcouldbepossible's script is already able to generate the leaderboard, that is special. I thought such a generation would require special handling, especially where there are entries where several people are tied (when article numbers not word counts are involved). Dhtwiki (talk) 05:49, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Dhtwiki @Miniapolis I have put up a documentation on how to use the new Python script. You may want to have a look. Itcouldbepossible Talk 09:54, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Coordinator elections for July–December 2026 term
I have set up a page for coordinator nominations and elections for the coming term. Please check for imperfections. Nominations open tomorrow, although there is usually some delay in people getting to them. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:38, 31 May 2026 (UTC)
June 2026 blitz
I have started a blitz page for June, the blitz to run from the 14th to the 20th. Dhtwiki (talk) 06:34, 7 June 2026 (UTC)
Barnstars
I have completed my calculations for the blitz barnstar page. After checking, they should be ready for distribution. Dhtwiki (talk) 00:00, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
- Barnstars given out. In solidarity, Miniapolis 17:13, 22 June 2026 (UTC)
June 2026 newsletter
I have started the June newsletter, which should go out soon. Let me know of any required additions or subtractions. I will update the "Progress report" section closer to the time the newsletter is sent, as well as temporarily remove the category, whose presence when the newsletter goes out seems to result in bad things (or I may be misinterpreting what happened in the past). Dhtwiki (talk) 06:06, 8 June 2026 (UTC)
- What happened in the past was that
<noinclude> category here </noinclude>was not used, so all recipients' talk pages were added to the category. If you manually remove and replace the category, you must replace it after sending each newsletter. When you use the Mass Messenger tool, you can prevent recipients' talk pages from being added to the category by using the code<noinclude>[[Category:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors newsletters from 2026]]</noinclude>. Thenoincludetags exclude anything they surround from copies without affecting the original; please see the relevant help page. I've added the tags to the current nl. Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 06:48, 9 June 2026 (UTC)- See the December 2024 and April 2025 newsletters, both of which have identical noinclude code but where sending the April newsletter created error. According to this coordinator talk discussion and this user talk discussion, the solution is to keep any categories off the newsletter when it is sent. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for replying. The code was excluded when I substed the above two newsletters to my talk page here (permalink) as a test. The December 2024 newsletter didn't include the category code when sent; I added the code later when I categorised the newsletters in January 2025, see here (permalink).
- After testing with the Mass Messenger tool (it's been a while!), I find the <noinclude>category here</noinclude>-tagged cat code does get sent when you add the newsletter page in the "Page to be sent as a message" box. However, if you scroll down and instead type {{subst:Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Newsletters/April 2025}}<br/>~~~~ into the "Body of the message" box, it will safely exclude the noinclude-tagged category code – see my test send at my talk page here (diff), and three previous test sends. Anyway, removing and replacing the category is more work but a safe bet! Cheers, 🅑🅰🅖 ☿ 🅴🅻🅵🅵🅐🅱 06:33, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for investigating. However, I think that, for now, I will stick with just removing the category before sending and replacing after, as that is what I have been doing for the past year (as well as getting my mind around, and keeping up with, your categorization system, which I wasn't following at first). Dhtwiki (talk) 22:23, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
- See the December 2024 and April 2025 newsletters, both of which have identical noinclude code but where sending the April newsletter created error. According to this coordinator talk discussion and this user talk discussion, the solution is to keep any categories off the newsletter when it is sent. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
Sent
Newsletter sent to 672 accounts on 22:57 11 June 2026 (UTC) via Special:MassMessage. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:01, 11 June 2026 (UTC)
July 2026 drive
I have created a drive page for July. Backlog months are January through May 2025 (245 articles in total), as well as all requests (25, excluding one being worked on). Does anything need to be changed? Dhtwiki (talk) 22:38, 23 June 2026 (UTC)
- Looks good, and thanks! In solidarity, Miniapolis 23:17, 23 June 2026 (UTC)