Talk:Bo Xilai

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Really suspicious

how all the additional links at the bottom lead to FLG websites. It's really quite infuriating how the FLG members have hijacked countless Chinese-related articles, yet still have their bullshit propaganda quoted as legitimate sources on Wikipedia.

Don't you all have something better to do, like burning yourselves to death? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.159.247 (talk) 03:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

IP editor 68.149.159.247, please read Wikipedia:Reliable sources :Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources, making sure that all majority and significant-minority views that have appeared in reliable, published sources are covered;
  1. Jiang Weiping is a world famous Chinese reporter who had been thrown into jail by none other than Bo Xilai, because Jiang knows too much dark secrets of Bo and even dare to publish the secrets, so I would not call them bullshit propaganda. Arilang talk 23:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
The truth is somewhere in between. Jiang Weiping does have a grudge against Bo, that much is for sure. As far as I can tell he is not against the Communist Party itself like the Epoch Times, but has certainly partnered with them because they all seem to be critical of some part of the CPC bureaucracy. In any case, I would warn against using Jiang's sources unless it is clearly stated who he is and that he is writing on behalf of the Epoch Times - a newspaper that does not have a shred of credibility. Colipon+(Talk) 00:40, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Colipon, please remember Wikipedia is not about Truth or Lies, True or false, it is about Reliable and verifiable. And your comment Epoch Times - a newspaper that does not have a shred of credibility is highly questionable, to say the least, and is there any difference if he is writing for The New York Times or The Epoch Times? Arilang talk 01:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
Arilang, are you serious? How many does Epoch Times have to be discredited before you admit that they are not a reliable news source? NYT and Epoch Times are the two extremes of good and bad journalism that you can possibly find. Are you serious in your claims that they could be possibly put into the same level? Have you ever read Epoch Times? Go on it now and read some of their BS.192.17.205.72 (talk) 17:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, come on guys, I thought we were over the fact that the Epoch Times is a literal propaganda rag during the Falun Gong feuds that originally led to my extended wiki-break. Do you have to go and start inserting this undue nonsense into articles that aren't related to the cult?Simonm223 (talk) 12:16, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Kristof NYT piece

On the topic of Falun Gong, here are some fairly heavy words from The New York Times China's Donkey Droppings By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF Published: December 1, 2004

So what are China's new leaders, Hu Jintao and Wen Jiabao, really like? Are they visionaries who are presiding over the greatest explosion of wealth the world has ever known? Or are they ruthless thugs who persecute Christians, Falun Gong adherents, labor leaders and journalists in a desperate attempt to maintain their dictatorship?

Jiang Weiping

China Releases Investigative Reporter Whose Jailing Had Upset U.S. By Philip P. Pan Washington Post Foreign Service


Jiang Weiping, a former bureau chief for the Hong Kong newspaper Wen Hui Bao, was arrested in December 2000 after writing a series of articles for the magazine Frontline that exposed corruption among senior officials in the northeastern province of Liaoning. He was then sentenced to eight years in prison on charges of revealing state secrets and inciting subversion. A higher court later reduced the sentence to six years. Jiang also reported that one of the Communist Party's rising stars, Bo Xilai, covered up corruption among friends and relatives during his years as mayor of the city of Dalian. Bo, who is the son of the party elder Bo Yibo, was serving as the Liaoning governor when Jiang's reports were published, and is now China's trade minister.

“ Jiang's reporting uncovered several corruption scandals involving high-level officials, including such well-connected leaders as Bo Xilai, governor of Liaoning province and son of Communist Party elder Bo Yibo.

http://cpj.org/awards/2001/jiang.php

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Arilang talk 12:59, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

The story of Jiang Weiping is well-known and has been widely reported within the mainstream Western media and by nonprofit organizations representing the interests of international journalists. I don't know anything about his relationships with either Fulan Gong or media related to Fulan Gong, but the basic facts of his life and career have been openly reported by non-Fulan Gong sources.
http://www.cpj.org/blog/2009/02/a-twisting-road-to-canada-for-a-chinese-journalist.php
Ferox Seneca (talk) 06:14, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Maoist party

Epoch Times is not a reliable source. DOR (HK) (talk) 13:29, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

The Epoch Times certainly has its angle, but then again so does the Xinhua News Agency, Fox News, and the SCMP, all of which are references in this entry. Annacoluthon (talk) 22:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
The four sources you name are not quite in the same category. DOR (ex-HK) (talk) 18:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Is he dead?

According to some Chinese sources, he might be dead. Please confirm

https://m.creaders.net/news/page/988075 MetaTalks (talk) 08:54, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Article review

It has been a while since this article has been reviewed, so I took a look and noticed the following:

  • There are uncited statements in the article, including the entire "Popular culture" section and multiple paragraphs.
  • At over 10,000 words, this article is WP:TOOBIG and detailed. For example, there is far too much detail about his marriages, including a very long block quote that should be WP:SS summarised instead.

Should this article go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 23:21, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

Bo Xilai

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Result: Kept. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:57, 11 August 2025 (UTC)

Uncited statements in the article, including the entire "Popular culture" section and multiple paragraphs. At over 10,000 words, this article is too detailed. For example, there is far too much detail about his marriages, including a very long block quote that should be summarised instead. Z1720 (talk) 17:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC)

I added starting sources to uncited paragraphs and removed some unsourced material. How do you think the marriages section should be cut? The Account 2 (talk) 23:18, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
  • @The Account 2: An article should have information about who the partner is, one sentence on how they met, when they were married, their kids, and how their marriage ended (if applicable). Unless there is something really notable about the marriage, other information can be trimmed/cut. Z1720 (talk) 23:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
    How does it look now? I trimmed and split some of the info to a new article. I didn't want to remove too much information about his second marriage because it played a central role in Bo's career and ultimate political downfall. The Account 2 (talk) 23:50, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
  • @The Account 2: I made further edits to that section. I also suggest that editors read through the whole article and spin out/trim prose. Z1720 (talk) 00:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
    What other improvements do you think can be made? The Account 2 (talk) 22:35, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
    The Account 2, Toadspike's comment below suggests there are still concerns about length. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:43, 7 August 2025 (UTC)
I did some fixing up: copyedits, trimming repetitive text, and moving citations around to cover places where they've drifted away from the text they support. I hope to do some more. This shouldn't be especially difficult to bring back to the GA standards, it's just extremely long. Toadspike [Talk] 19:00, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
  • Keep I added a cn tag to the article, but that should be easy to resolve. Length concerns have been resolved. No sourcing concerns. Z1720 (talk) 20:54, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
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