Talk:Faded (Alan Walker song)

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Stub-class?

The article is not a stub anymore, as there's more content for context. -Mardus /talk 21:07, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

No any source. Sources needed. Eurohunter (talk) 19:18, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

In this edit, this line about Iselin Solheim was removed:

, though she is not credited as a featured artist.

So, is Iselin Solheim credited as a featured artist or not? The title of the official video suggests, that she is not credited as a featured artist. -Mardus /talk 00:52, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

If she isn't credited as featured artists, she isn't featured artist. Eurohunter (talk) 12:52, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Charts: Singapore removed

For some reason, this edit removed Singapore, and did not explain why. -Mardus /talk 14:10, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

In my opinion there should be just national main sales charts include airplay etc. not even like polish airplay than just Singaporean radio chart. But I'm not sure there in Singapore is music industry like UK, Germany etc. Eurohunter (talk) 18:08, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
For example, in Estonia, at least three or four different charts are run by major music-centered stations — Raadio Uuno, Sky Pluss, Power Hit Radio (all commercial), and Raadio 2 (public station, monthly chart). In Uuno's chart, "Faded" reached number 1, but it's very difficult to know, which one of them charts is the official or most comprehensive one. -Mardus /talk 22:19, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Help needed in confirming Paldiski locations filmed in the video

Although I could find the location of the last building just outside Paldiski, I don't know exactly if parts of the video were also filmed in Paldiski proper, because I'm not familiar with the area. One of only very few hints I got was an Instagram post or repost tagged #Paldiski, which was possibly the one that helped me pinpoint the location of the final shot via flickr and then Picasaweb. -Mardus /talk 01:23, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

100 million views on YouTube

Since the video has gained over 100 million views already on YouTube, then I've decided to slow down updating the view count.

  • What this means, is, that instead of updating the view count every time another million views are added, I'll update the count once it reaches a nice number, such as 110, 111, 123, 125 mil., etc.
  • If a reputable news source reports a greater view count in-between, then editors are encouraged to add that, and update the view count accordingly. -Mardus /talk 23:39, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
  • When editing, don't forget to also update the accessdate in the YouTube reference when updating the view count. Note also, that |date=2015-12-03 in the reference is the video upload (aka publication) date, and should therefore not be changed. -Mardus /talk 22:06, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
    • Anyway this information is unstable so it isn't good information for encyclopedia. Eurohunter (talk) 04:26, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
It's a primary source, but the most reliable one for that fact. If I'll find a reliable source reporting over 200 million views, then I'll add that. The number of views is well over 4 million every day, so I only revisit the video to see if the view count has reached a reasonably round number. -Mardus /talk 15:07, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Rummu quarry image

Rummu quarry

One of the edits removed the image pictured to the right, though it's still featured in the article about the Rummu quarry itself. If anyone has a wish to add the picture back into this article (Faded), then feel free to do so. -Mardus /talk 14:56, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Resolved. Turns out, that an IP editor made some arbitrary changes and removed some of the content in the process. -Mardus /talk 12:52, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

@Eurohunter, I slightly disagree on removing the music video link. OTOH, one of the references already points to the video, and the music video on its own is already very famous. -Mardus /talk 21:18, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what do you mean. External links it's better place for his main official site or song (even happened). Eurohunter (talk) 21:23, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
Well, on one hand, the removal seemed arbitrary; on the other hand, there are links already. It was, that I just wanted to point out these two things. If the infobox does not have the external link now, then it's still ok. -Mardus /talk 21:32, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
So are you agree with that? If YouTube links been deleted from infobox (been deleted like in polish version?) should be deleted from external links too. Eurohunter (talk) 22:27, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
I only had in mind the one external link from the infobox. External links in the External links section are required for reference, such that there would be a link to the original "Faded" video, but not links to remixes not published by Walker himself. -Mardus /talk 01:09, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

NPOV

In the Background section, the comparison with fade is a little biased don't you think? The 2nd link is not that relevant as well (at least when it comes to the song being better mixed and mastered). Kelsotopia (talk) 18:35, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

YouTube statistics

A newly-registered user removed YouTube information without prior discussion here at Talk, with only explanation that "This is not true". I reverted his edit. If that user misbehaves, the article will need protection from edits by IP users and newly-registered users. -Mardus /talk 13:10, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Where is the proof of the stat that says this stat is true? Explain. I cannot find any sources saying this stat is true, thanks. I am not believing it is true and I gave examples of why it is not true. ~walker9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walker9 (talk • contribs) 16:58, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

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Alan Walker and not Iselin Solheim?

This is the first song I remember ever that is not being marketed as sung by the singer, but someone else. I don't think that is very common is it? If not, why not a paragraph somewhere in this page to explain why it is an Alan Walker song and not an Iselin Solheim song? And why Lucky is a Kylie song and not a Stock Aitken and Waterman featuring Kylie? ZhuLien /talk 16:40, 2 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.207.235 (talk)

Track list

The albums "Faded - Single", "Faded (Restrung) - Single", "Faded (Remixes) - EP" and "Faded (Remixes II) - Single" are only available in the United States,[1] while the albums "Faded (Remixes)" and "Faded - EP" are available worldwide.[2] I created the track lists for both albums that are available worldwide, and added "(US only)" to the track lists of the 4 US-only albums. Hayman30 (talk) 08:07, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

References

  1. "Alan Walker on Apple Music". iTunes. Retrieved 2017-02-03.
  2. "Alan Walker on Apple Music". iTunes. Retrieved 2017-02-03.

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No mention of the previous "fade" NCS song by Alan Walker? Faded it's obviously inspired in fade, just go listen it

Go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7SZ5SBzyY Notice, it's the exact same background melody rhytm. It's from 2014, way before Faded was published. What's the relationship between the two?

Peer review

Faded (Alan Walker song)

I've listed this article for peer review because I'd like to nominate this article for GAN.

Thanks, Meganenohito (talk) 14:29, 25 November 2025 (UTC)

  • @Meganenohito: I added some citation needed tags to the article, which should be resolved before a GAN. Some of the sources might be challenged, like YouTube and IMDB. Ensure that they are needed and can't be replaced by other sources. Z1720 (talk) 17:22, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
    I've fixed the "citation needed" tag issue, but I can't find an alternative source to YouTube or IMDB. What should I do? Meganenohito (talk) 08:49, 1 December 2025 (UTC)

Copy-editing comments

I think the article is in good shape for a GA. I have one comments: per WP:BONUSTRACKS, remixes need more prose coverage to be notable (e.g., reviews, announcements, comparisons with the original). If not it would be best to remove them. The same is for Remixes EP cover. —LastJabberwocky (Rrarr) 14:35, 12 December 2025 (UTC)

GA review

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Nominator: Meganenohito (talk · contribs) 00:51, 15 December 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: NegativeMP1 (talk · contribs) 00:12, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm going to be reviewing this article. Since it's fairly long and has a lot of citations, it's going to take a while. But, I'll try to get it done in about a week or so. λ NegativeMP1 00:12, 1 February 2026 (UTC)

  • There's a ton of ground to cover with this one, so I'm splitting the prose review alone into sections. I will go in-order and try to get this done over time. λ NegativeMP1 02:20, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

Prose

Lead

  • "The song was released [...]" It's obviously referring to "Faded" right now, so you can replace "the song" with "it" to avoid repetition with the previous sentence.
  • I think there's a lot of trimming that could be done here. For example, ""Faded" debuted at number 91 on the Billboard Hot 100, peaking at number 80. This was Walker's first appearance on the Billboard Hot 100 and became the 16th Norwegian song to chart there". Ultimately all that matters here for a lead summary is that it reached number 80, so it could be trimmed back to ""Faded" reached number 80 on the Billboard Hot 100, and was the 16th Norwegian song to chart there". Willing to work further to get thi
  • "The song achieved massive global success" We establish that already with "It was also a commercial success".
  • Do we need to list all the countries that the song topped the charts in in the lead?
  • The lead puts a ton of coverage on the song's success, but not its genre or what the song is about.
  • The information about being put on Different World should be included the article body somewhere, rather than just in the lead and release history section.
  • Initial December 5 release date should be in the prose

 Done

Second read comments:

  • I think it is worth stating that the song topped the charts in that many countries while just not naming them. I think what would work is "It topped the charts in 18 countries, and also topped the year-end charts in Austria, Germany, Switzerland, and Sweden".
  • I don't know where else to put this since it doesn't impact only one section but I realized that there's a lot of inconsistencies on whether the article uses DMY or MDY dates. For example, the live debut date in the lead is formatted as 27 February 2016, but in the article is written as February 27, 2016.

Background

  • "The song "Faded" is a remake [...]" Trim to ""Faded" is a remake [...]". It's obvious by now that it is a song
  • "When "Fade" first started gaining attention in 2014, Walker got a feedback saying: "Oh, it feels like this song has lyrics, but there are no words". From that point on, Walker began to realise that the song had potential as a vocal track, an idea he sat over for a bit. He envisioned fleshing out "Fade" into a larger song, but was not ready to do it yet. So, he passed his time on other releases like "Spectre" and "Force"" This whole excerpt is a bit jank-y in wording and doesn't fell encyclopedic, but rather editorial. I'd paraphrase the quote and fix "a feedback".
    • An example of how I'd rewrite this bit is "When "Fade" started gaining attention in 2014, Walker received feedback from listeners on how the song felt like it should have lyrics, which it lacked. Walker felt the song had potential to be expanded, such as by adding vocals, but wasn't ready to do it yet."
  • How relevant are Spectre and Force to the development of Faded?
  • When someone is introducing, they should only be referred to with their last name after that point; Gunnar Greeve and Jesper Borgen shouldn't be addressed by their full name after their first mention.
  • "Walker was also searching for the right vocalist to remake "Fade", and when he met fellow Norwegian singer Iselin Solheim through Jesper Borgen, one of the songwriters he was working with, Walker knew it was the perfect fit" Two issues:
    • Once again, the writing feels a bit editorial. I think "Walker felt she was the perfect fit for the song" would be better than "Walker knew it was the perfect fit".
    • We already know that he was working with Borgen, we don't need to restate his role.

 Done

Second read:

  • "the majors soon sat up and took notice" This is the exact wording taken from the AllMusic biography and is clearly a bit editorial. What exactly are the "majors"?

Lyrics and composition

  • I'm fine with the songwriting information being repeated here given the new context, but Skretting and Malmborg should also be mentioned.
  • "In addition to the lyrics, the team rebuilt the track with a new mix and mastering, and piano has been introduced" → "In addition to the lyrics, the track was fully rebuilt with a new mix and mastering, and a piano is introduced"
  • The whole sentence about downtempo seems a bit confusing, particularly Walker's quote about it. Also wikilink the term

 Done

Critical reception

  • This sections follows a pretty consistent structure of "X said Y", with Y being a quote, without much paraphrasing. I'd try to not only paraphrase some of what the critics are saying, but also add some variation like demonstrated at WP:RECEPTION.
    • The whole bit from Vice, especially, needs paraphrasing.
  • I don't think naming individual listicles is necessary here. For example, I think "Tatiana Cirisano of Billboard ranked the song at number one in her listicle "Alan Walker's 5 Best Songs: Critic's Picks"," would read better as "Tatiana Cirisano of Billboard ranked it as Walker's best song,"

Commercial performance

  • The map here seems to inconsistently use nation-wide charting versus sub-charts for specific genres of songs. For example, based on the context given, it'd make the reader think from looking at the image that Faded topped the Hot 100 in the United States; in reality, it only hit #80, but it did reach #4 and #7 on specific electronic and dance sub-charts. Greece is colored despite the song only reaching #2 on a sub-chart. Meanwhile, countries like Argentina are colored because the song hit the top 20 on the full national chart.
  • "As of July 2016, Billboard reported that "Faded" was the 10th best-selling EDM song in the United States with 186,000 sales, and the 10th most-streamed EDM song on demand across audio and video in the United States with 77,084,000 streams. Billboard reported a similar report in July 2017, making it the 9th most-watched EDM song on video on demand with 63,990,000 views. In a July 2018 report, the song was the 7th most-streamed EDM song on demand across audio and video in the United States with 121,162,000 streams." There's overall a lot of repetition in this excerpt and it doesn't flow well. "reported a similar report"?
    • Replace "As of" from the first sentence because it would make it seem like this is the most up to date figure even though the section gives data up to 2019
  • ""Faded" overtakes Kygo's song "Firestone" featuring Conrad Sewell as the most streamed Norwegian song on Spotify." I am confused as to how this image helps, and the caption reads like a news headline. I'm noticing that editorialized writing like this is a recurring theme in this article.
  • Link to Kygo in his first mention rather than second

Music video

Acoustic version

Remixes and EP

Live performances

Accolades

Track listing

Personnel

Charts

Certifications

Release history

Media review

Source review

Spotcheck

Will review 1 10th of the articles sources. So, as of right now, 28. And I will be doing this only when the prose review is concluded or while I am doing it. λ NegativeMP1 02:20, 2 February 2026 (UTC)

So far: 10/28 (Also worth noting I am not checking every single individual time the source is checked, although I am aiming to do a few at least. Will give more priority towards sources that may have issues)

  • Ref. 3:
  • Ref. 6:
    • It states that "Fade" got 65 million "hits", but it doesn't seem to be referring to just YouTube views.  Done
  • Ref. 7:
    • Does not state that "Faded" was the sole reason that Walker signed with MER  Done
  • Ref. 9:
  • Ref. 11:
  • Ref. 23:
  • Ref. 28:
    • The quote in the article at present: "The rolling beats and stunning synth progressions have captivated dance listeners around the world".
    • The actual quote: "It’s not hard to understand why the winding beat and triumphant synth progression of “Faded” captivated dance listeners around the globe"
  • Ref. 51:
  • Ref. 65:
  • Ref. 71:
  • More to follow

Final comments

@Meganenohito:, I hope this doesn't come off as harsh, but I think the review may be starting to approach WP:FIXLOOP territory. It seems like even when skimming back through sections I already looked at, there's more things about the writing that just seem off. The couple of failed spotchecks also don't boost my confidence as to what the rest of the article may entail. I do want to help out with this article and try to fix it up to the best it can be, and you clearly put a lot of work into it. The research and effort done here is incredible. But out of what may still need to be done, I think it may be best handled outside of a GAN review. It could be renominated later after some copyedits, which I'm willing to help out with beyond just this review if you'd like. But, for now, I don't think a GAN review is going to help either of us, let alone the article. I am regretfully going to be failing this nomination at present. But, again, if you have any further questions or would like my help with copyediting the article, I am more than willing to do so. λ NegativeMP1 18:21, 3 February 2026 (UTC)

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GA review

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Nominator: Meganenohito (talk · contribs) 08:17, 4 April 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: Vestrian24Bio (talk · contribs) 13:55, 17 June 2026 (UTC)


Hi! I will be reviewing this article for WP:GABD, expect the initial remarks soon! Vestrian24Bio 07:35, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Comments

Faded (Alan Walker song) (as of this rev)
  • Add an appropriate ENGVAR template to the page.
  • Link works & websites (Billboard, YouTube, OCC etc.) in all refs.
  • Refs for explanatory notes..?
  • Add translated titles to refs 81, 101, 105, 171, 241, 244, 245, 248, 254, 264, 270, 275, 278, 285 & 291.
  • Refs 165, 241 & 295 are using a deprecated archival service replace them.
  • Refs 167, 168 & 170 are showing Category:CS1 maint: others in cite AV media (notes), fix it.
  • Ref 111 (IMDb) is an unreliable source, replace/remove it.
  • Ref 122 is an unreliable source, replace/remove it.
  • Replace YT official videos (refs 127 & 129) with independent news coverages instead.

Vestrian24Bio 07:35, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

 Done Meganenohito (talk) 01:04, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
  • Why is Gunnar Greve listed as Gunnar Greve Pettersen in the infobox..?
  • "soon sat up and took notice" - write this in a neutral tone..
  • Mention that Different World was his debut album in the Background and release section.
  • No need for refs in the audio sample's caption, since the details also presented in the adjacent prose where it's sourced.
  • Is the usage of world map for chart peak position in line with MOS:COLORS..?
  • Add refs to the Accolades prose..
  • Image alignment:
    • Images in the Background and release section could be aligned to the left.
    • Chart performance in Norway could be aligned to the left.
    • R1 reactor hall image could be aligned to the left.

Vestrian24Bio 07:35, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

@Meganenohito: that's all I got, ping me when you're done addressing these.. Vestrian24Bio 07:35, 26 June 2026 (UTC)
 Done Meganenohito (talk) 00:43, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

Source spot-check

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