Flag
Seems we have some disagreement over the flag. The one on the article now has been stable for a very long time, and I'm not sure how I feel about the new one myself. @Quintinsoloviev is changing it out to a new version, and @HoosierMan1816 is changing it back... Can we get some discussion here? Why are we changing it in the first place? MediaKyle (talk) 14:31, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- For many years Wikipedia has had a user-created mockup of the PEI flag. I live on this island so it's quite noticeable seeing how low-quality the fake flag is. So I ended up finding the official design and converted it to .svg, and that file is Official_Flag_of_Prince_Edward_Island.svg Quintinsoloviev (talk) 14:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Where did you find this exactly? The source link on the uploaded file does not lead to a flag image. -- MediaKyle (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Here Quintinsoloviev (talk) 20:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- It appears as though you got this image from Britannica, is that right? If so, beyond the problem of which flag to use, the licensing information on the file you uploaded is incorrect. -- MediaKyle (talk) 14:50, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Here Quintinsoloviev (talk) 20:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Where did you find this exactly? The source link on the uploaded file does not lead to a flag image. -- MediaKyle (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Only a general design of the flag is specified by law. The flag appears differently depending on the manufacturer. This source shows the same design that is currently being used on the article. HoosierMan1816 (talk) 14:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The flag on their current updated website is the one I uploaded here. Find me a live government website that isn't WebArchive. My flag is displayed on all current websites as the version I uploaded. And if you live on the island go find me a single flagpole or government building waving your discolored design. Here's another source go to Page 2 Quintinsoloviev (talk) 20:21, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Infobox
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Aren't we overdoing it, with the non-english names? GoodDay (talk) 23:36, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- Yes! Moxy🍁 23:50, 25 November 2025 (UTC)
- Shall we trim these ones as well? It'd be nice to go back to clean and tidy infoboxes. MediaKyle (talk) 12:08, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Do we need to keep having this discussion every few months? The infobox header is for common names, not just official names. French and Mi'kmaq are both common languages in Prince Edward Island.
- (See #Government websites are real sources, still visible on this page) Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 21:17, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Two doesn't seem like "overdoing it" to me. — W.andrea (talk) 23:17, 26 November 2025 (UTC)
- Keep the French name.
- Per guidance from WP:PLACENAME#General guidelines. Specifically from point #2 - I will include some excerpts:
- "The lead: The title can be followed in the first line by a list of alternative names in parentheses"... "Relevant foreign language names (one used by at least 10% of sources in the English language or that is used by a group of people which used to inhabit this geographical place) are permitted. Local official names should be listed before other alternate names if they differ from a widely accepted English name" ... "Infoboxes should generally be headed with the article title, and include these alternate names."
- Wikipolicy is accommodates one and even two alternate names. As W.andrea pointed out, there is important historic context which merits inclusion. —WildComet talk 04:05, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- This is ridiculous, Mi'kmawi'simk is the official, first language of Nova Scotia. This should be a non-issue.[1] Danachos (talk) 19:32, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- This is the article about Prince Edward Island, you might be on the wrong talk page. In any case, others think differently. There is no need to include any names other than English and French in the infobox and the lead; this information about Indigenous names belongs in an etymology section. MediaKyle (talk) 19:46, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
References
- "Nova Scotia recognizes Mi'kmaw as the province's original language". Commissioner of Official Languages of Canada. Government of Canada. Retrieved 21 December 2025.
Infobox map
Not a fan of the new map in the infobox... You can't navigate through the provinces in the infobox from here anymore, something I use a lot. Compare Nova Scotia and New Brunswick. Can we retain the ability to switch between a map of Canada and the province, while also keeping the links? MediaKyle (talk) 12:37, 27 November 2025 (UTC)
- I was trying to implement a suggestion that was on this page at the time, but is now archived: Talk:Prince Edward Island/Archive 1#Top photo. I tend to agree that we should have a better detail map, rather than just a national map where PEI is a tiny blip and needs to be highlighted with an ugly red circle. But when I added the switcher the links didn't line up with the map any more, and I couldn't figure out how to reposition them, only how to remove them. There's still caption text there that isn't on the page, it must be coming from the infobox template itself. I'm definitely open to putting them back if someone knows how to do it. I'll self-revert in the meantime. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:26, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
Mi'kmawi'simk
Mi'kmawi'simk is an official language of the province. Here is the report by the Commissioner of Official Languages and here is the actual act of legislation. I do not understand what your problem is with official, legitimate sources, MediaKyle, but this is getting out of hand. Mi'kmawi'simk belongs on this pages whether you like it or not.
As such, not only should the original, first name of the island be present (as per, and I reiterate from WildComet, WP:PLACENAME#General guidelines), but Mi'kmawi'simk should be listed as an official language, alongside English's de facto status. Now, I do not know Wikipedia guidelines as well as other users, but I do know that suppressing and erasing an official language (again: It was legislated!) should not be done because of feelings. Danachos (talk) 20:06, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- It's not an official language of Prince Edward Island. GoodDay (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- You are conflating the difference between a language being recognized as historic/original and a language that is actually conferred official language status. The distinction is minute, but important enough that we should not be mischaracterizing one as the other.
- Legislation on official languages (particularly in Canada) empowers said languages to be the working language of the province, be it in its legislature, judiciary, bureaucracy or educational systems.
- The Mi'kmaw Language Act does not confer official language status, nor does it empower the language as a working language for any system in the province. To be frank, the Act itself even lacks the wording "official language" to begin with... and that is because the Act was never intended to make it an "official language" but to simply recognize the history of the language in the province and more importantly, provide the language the tools to support its preservation and revitalization (namely through the Mi’kmaw Language Committee that thet Act established).
- In this respect, the Act is comparable to Nova Scotia's Gaelic Language Act, BC and Manitoba’s Indigenous languages acts, and Ontario's French Language Services Act. Alongside PEI's Mi'kmaw Language Act, these Acts simply recognize the historical and cultural significance of specific languages and create mechanisms to support their survival and revitalization in said jurisdictions. However, they do not establish them as official languages, or empower them to be working languages (barring Ontario's to a limited degree but that's besides the point). Leventio (talk) 21:40, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
- Of course Mi'kmawi'simk belongs on this article, I never said it didn't. It's still there, actually. It just doesn't need to be in the infobox, or the first sentence. This has been litigated and relitigated... Consensus is clear for inclusion of French names in the infobox, not so much for others. I think our time would be better spent writing the article than worrying about the infobox. MediaKyle (talk) 22:34, 21 December 2025 (UTC)
Suggestion: Add opioid mortality and healthcare employment data
Disclosing per WP:COI: I am affiliated with Inspurious, a Canadian data journalism site that publishes analyses of Statistics Canada and other government data.
Prince Edward Island's Wikipedia article covers its economy and demographics but has limited public health and healthcare workforce data. I'd suggest adding two facts:
Prince Edward Island has the lowest average annual opioid death count of any Canadian province — approximately 7 deaths per year averaged over 2016–2024, corresponding to 4.3 deaths per 100,000 population (second-lowest per-capita rate, above only Quebec at 3.7).[1]
The health care and social assistance sector employed approximately 16,000 workers in Prince Edward Island as of 2025, up from approximately 4,000 in 1976 — a 270% increase, well ahead of the province's overall employment growth of 122%. Health care's share of provincial employment rose from 9% to 17% over the same period, one of the highest shares nationally.[2]
Both datasets sourced from Statistics Canada and Public Health Agency of Canada respectively. Buffleheader (talk)
- There is a reason PEI is excluded from a lot of per capita province level measures: the exceedingly small population size lends to out-sized per capita stats. EG: PEI has the most heads of cattle per-capita.
- There is a reason we tend to avoid over-reliance on primary sources. And, no offense, but Inspurious is not eligible to be a RS at least in part because of its over-use of AI tools. Do you have any other reliable secondary sources? Simonm223 (talk) 00:19, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: See reply at Talk:New Brunswick. -- MediaKyle (talk) 00:47, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
- "Opioid deaths in Prince Edward Island vs other provinces". Inspurious. 2026-04-05. Retrieved 2026-04-28.
- "Prince Edward Island's health care employment growth, 1976–2026". Inspurious. 2026-04-05. Retrieved 2026-04-28.