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Numbering of Bangladeshi prime ministers
Thank you for your efforts to maintain List of prime ministers of Bangladesh. Your addition of a number column, however, is problematic. There is no well established numbering of Bangladeshi prime ministers. This has been discussed before on the talk page in sections Numbering and Numbering, again. Unless there is now a consensus among sources, your personal numbering contradicts the advice about the order parameter at Template:Infobox officeholder ("different numbering systems could be applied ... making this unsustainable"). The addition of numbers to the list should be reverted. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:29, 19 November 2025 (UTC)
- @Worldbruce: I understand what you are saying, but please have in mind that this is not "my personal numbering" but something that is already stated on the article of every individial Bangladeshi prime minister: Khaleda Zia is described as the 9th prime minister on her article, Sheikh Hasina as the 10th and so on. Furthermore, I (re)added the numbers to the list for the sake of consistency with List of presidents of Bangladesh, which obviously contain the numbers. Finally, I am aware (at least partly) of the previous discussions on the talk page, and I have no problem to see my (re)addition of numbers to the list reverted, if that is what the majority of editors prefers to do. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 09:35, 20 November 2025 (UTC)
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- @Sundostund hello sir, I am suggesting articles about Nyanzi Martin Luther,Nup Radio if possible ~2025-34829-27 (talk) 20:18, 21 November 2025 (UTC)
- Hello. Having in mind Wikipedia:Notability (media), I'd say that these aren't fit for a Wikipedia article at the moment. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 08:36, 22 November 2025 (UTC)
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A spokesman is not a chairman. The junta was initialy collegial. Panam2014 (talk) 21:31, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- There are (some) sources that say otherwise. Anyway, let us wait and see whether Dinis Incanha should be excluded from the list of presidents. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 21:37, 28 November 2025 (UTC)
- What sources? I have seen the source provided in talk page by the IP user, no one claim that. Panam2014 (talk) 15:34, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I am not really interested in this matter. I would recommend that you sort it out in talk page with the IP user. My only (real) concern here is that the list of presidents isn't jeopardized in some structural/stylistic way. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 16:00, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- The problem is it is an WP:OR. The three sources said that Incanha read the statment made by the junta. It does not mean that he is the chairman. Same case with Amadou Abdramane. Panam2014 (talk) 22:47, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I am not really interested in this matter. I would recommend that you sort it out in talk page with the IP user. My only (real) concern here is that the list of presidents isn't jeopardized in some structural/stylistic way. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 16:00, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
- What sources? I have seen the source provided in talk page by the IP user, no one claim that. Panam2014 (talk) 15:34, 30 November 2025 (UTC)
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Peru's new President affiliation
He has indeed political party, several respected news agencies mention that he is part of Free Peru. For instance:
https://apnews.com/article/peru-president-congress-interim-election-c6f1e2d6c061ea8ba1cb0f4f467609bc
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgkp84mmmvo
Also in Spanish, all mainstream Media, both in Perú and abroad mention the fact that he is from Perú Libre (Free Peru) Bor989 (talk) 16:29, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
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Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary (or the default undo summary). Thanks! Pipoin (talk) 16:57, 1 March 2026 (UTC)
Question about something
Hi Sundostund sorry if i am bothering may i ask you question about something ? Friendlyhistorian (talk) 07:02, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hi. Of course, go ahead; I'll be glad to help, if I can. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 13:58, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- a lot of lists of prime ministers used to have the number column and the numbering on the same column but now that's getting split due to the mos colour rule pls if you can explain that to me and can i just have them split but side by side like the Rwanda article
- secondary i did what you suggested and used the treehouse for advice do you know any other places in Wikipedia were i can interact or chat with others of sites or forums if you know any of them . Thanks in advance Friendlyhistorian (talk) 18:53, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
- Well, I'd say that MOS:CONTRAST is pretty much clear, so I'm not sure what else I should add to that. We obviously must abide to what is layed out in MOS – but let me say that, personally, I'm not opposed to any of the (three) possible ways to include the color column to lists. So, I don't have some strong opinion on that issue.
- Honestly, I see the Teahouse and the Village pump as the best options to interact with other users. So far, I didn't use some other sites or forums for that, but I know about these chat rooms as well – so maybe you'll find them helpful.
- — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:36, 8 March 2026 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of List of commandants superior of the Strategic Base of Bizerte

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Alternative history on Wikipedia
Hello, I'm aware the Taliban has a view that they had a legitimate government in place during the insurgency period from 2001 to 2021, but it is really not Wikipedia's role to retroactively go back and say that was all actually true. Please keep any content additions grounded in fact, we do not accept alternative history writing. Putting in an article that Akhtar Mansour, an insurgent leader his entire life, was "Supreme Leader of Afghanistan" (completely unqualified with any other information/noted, you just said he was that unambiguously from 2013-2016) , is egregious disinformation that this site takes seriously and we have an arbitration procedure in place for this topic area that can deal with this if necessary. TEMPO156 (talk) 22:17, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- Hello. As you have assumed here, when I created Template:Supreme Leaders of Afghanistan and placed it to Akhtar Mansur afterwards, I was guided by the existing data from Supreme Leader of Afghanistan – the data which wasn't included in that article by myself. My intention wasn't to include incorrect information to the Mansur's article, and especially not to endorse any part of the Taliban misinformations/propaganda. I have no reason to dwell deeper into that discussion (as I saw there were some related discussion(s) in the past), and I consider the matter closed. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 23:34, 21 March 2026 (UTC)
- I can tell you didn't mean to spread Taliban propaganda since you edit every country's politics in this way, but I have to warn you that you have to read something first before you edit. You stripped out all the context in the Supreme Leader of Afghanistan article saying this was just Taliban POV and presented it as uncontested fact. This applies to any topic; otherwise you will write things that are just very wrong and even offensive. Editing based only on what you read on another Wikipedia article (which in this case was not actually wrong, but stripped of its context) is not allowed by our rules. Also, the "important notice" has to be given separately if any Afghan politics arbitration needs to be opened later, I am not allowed to modify it. TEMPO156 (talk) 00:43, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I'm surprized that my edits at Template:Supreme Leaders of Afghanistan and Akhtar Mansur prompted you to react in this way, when a simple revert/change and a short(er) message on my talk page about it would be sufficient. I'd want to advise you to keep AGF and CIV on your mind, as I'm sensing in some of your wording (like in your comments on this talk page – as well as here and here) that you forgot about it. If you disagree with someone's edits, there is no reason to act/comment in a way that is borderline insulting. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 01:54, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I know it is done in good faith, but yes, if you are unfamiliar with the topic (you told me you only got this information from Wikipedia), you will run into major issues with content. Why are you attempting to undo the changes I'm trying to make to prevent other people from doing the same thing? TEMPO156 (talk) 02:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm certainly not unfamiliar with the (recent) Afghan history; as I said before, all of my edits are subject to change/correction, and I'd never be opposed to that, as long as they are made with AGF and CIV as cornerstones. I find your attempts to prove your point as wrong and basically insulting. I see no reason for you to do that. As for your edits at Supreme Leader of Afghanistan, I'm not undoing anything. I just corrected some of your edits; we don't need to state "Term of office as Taliban supreme leader" when there's a NoteTag next to it, that is fully explanational (not to mention the section itself being named "List of Taliban supreme leaders"). Your other removals (the number column and the image column) are usual elements for lists of officeholders, and I see no reason to not include them in this list as well. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 02:21, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- We are fine. This has been happening repeatedly on a topic that is extremely sensitive to people (terrorism/religious extremism) and I have to take a hard line on making sure we're remaining neutral. You are not the first to do this so it is getting frustrating. I'm hoping those changes will help. I know there can be a lot of frustration with the Afghan community with how Wikipedia has handled the Taliban, so it is something I take seriously. But we are fine, I know you didn't mean anything by it. CIV allows criticism of actions people take that are against policy. Fair use images are not allowed in lists. TEMPO156 (talk) 02:23, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I myself dislike any government based on religion/religious fundamentalism; I closely followed what was happening at time of the 2021 Taliban offensive, and trust me I didn't like what I see at all; I can only imagine the amount of frustration the Afghan community felt. As for the edits here, getting frustrating at times isn't an excuse to overreact, and to overstep from AGF and CIV. As for fair use images, I didn't add them at all. The image column is there to be used once acceptable images are uploaded on the Commons, and then used here. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 02:35, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- We are fine. This has been happening repeatedly on a topic that is extremely sensitive to people (terrorism/religious extremism) and I have to take a hard line on making sure we're remaining neutral. You are not the first to do this so it is getting frustrating. I'm hoping those changes will help. I know there can be a lot of frustration with the Afghan community with how Wikipedia has handled the Taliban, so it is something I take seriously. But we are fine, I know you didn't mean anything by it. CIV allows criticism of actions people take that are against policy. Fair use images are not allowed in lists. TEMPO156 (talk) 02:23, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I'm certainly not unfamiliar with the (recent) Afghan history; as I said before, all of my edits are subject to change/correction, and I'd never be opposed to that, as long as they are made with AGF and CIV as cornerstones. I find your attempts to prove your point as wrong and basically insulting. I see no reason for you to do that. As for your edits at Supreme Leader of Afghanistan, I'm not undoing anything. I just corrected some of your edits; we don't need to state "Term of office as Taliban supreme leader" when there's a NoteTag next to it, that is fully explanational (not to mention the section itself being named "List of Taliban supreme leaders"). Your other removals (the number column and the image column) are usual elements for lists of officeholders, and I see no reason to not include them in this list as well. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 02:21, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I know it is done in good faith, but yes, if you are unfamiliar with the topic (you told me you only got this information from Wikipedia), you will run into major issues with content. Why are you attempting to undo the changes I'm trying to make to prevent other people from doing the same thing? TEMPO156 (talk) 02:11, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- In all honesty, I'm surprized that my edits at Template:Supreme Leaders of Afghanistan and Akhtar Mansur prompted you to react in this way, when a simple revert/change and a short(er) message on my talk page about it would be sufficient. I'd want to advise you to keep AGF and CIV on your mind, as I'm sensing in some of your wording (like in your comments on this talk page – as well as here and here) that you forgot about it. If you disagree with someone's edits, there is no reason to act/comment in a way that is borderline insulting. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 01:54, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
- I can tell you didn't mean to spread Taliban propaganda since you edit every country's politics in this way, but I have to warn you that you have to read something first before you edit. You stripped out all the context in the Supreme Leader of Afghanistan article saying this was just Taliban POV and presented it as uncontested fact. This applies to any topic; otherwise you will write things that are just very wrong and even offensive. Editing based only on what you read on another Wikipedia article (which in this case was not actually wrong, but stripped of its context) is not allowed by our rules. Also, the "important notice" has to be given separately if any Afghan politics arbitration needs to be opened later, I am not allowed to modify it. TEMPO156 (talk) 00:43, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Apology
Hi I'd like to apologize for my handling of this. I would absolutely maintain that it is a bad edit to call Akhtar Mansour the supreme leader of Afghanistan, but at the same time, I definitely knew better than to act as if the most construtive way to approach you about this was to come in hot under the regrettably edgy section header "Alternative history on Wikipedia". It is, however, a widely accepted understanding on here that everyone, no matter how good of an editor, will do something quite unwise at least occasionally. So I hope for some forgiveness on that basis. TEMPO156 (talk) 04:48, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
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Hello. Regarding edit summaries like this, you're not comparing like with like. Adding parliamentary elections to a template listing Prime Ministers would be illogical because parliamentary elections do not directly determine the Prime Minister (see e.g. Liz Truss. Rishi Sunak etc). On the other hand, presidential elections directly determine the president. Would you mind reverting this and similar edits you've made based on what I would argue is flawed logic? Cheers, Number 57 22:41, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
- Hello. I'm sorry, but I wouldn't call it flawed logic. I just don't see how and why elections (either presidential or parliamentary) should be part of templates like this, as their (primary) purpose should be to simply display officeholders of the post in question, without the burden of unnecessary content. It could also (to an extent) be a violation of WP:OVERLINK and WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. No matter if we talk about Template:Presidents of the United States, Template:Presidents of France, Template:Presidents of the Russian Federation, Template:Presidents of Argentina, Template:Prime ministers of the United Kingdom, Template:Heads of government of France or any of the templates that you added elections to, it is hard for me to imagine them with elections included into the content. Therefore, it would be hard for me to act in good faith and simply do the reverting that you asked for. Cheers, — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 10:45, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Regarding the two guidelines you've quoted, overlinking is about not linking terms that are commonly understood or known (e.g. there is no need to link architect in an article about an architect), while bidirectional requires that articles linked in the template have the template on that article. What we're discussing is a completely different matter.
- It's not uncommon for presidential election templates to include other information relevant to the presidency; the US one has presidential timelines, some have links to related articles such as the presidential residence, spouses etc. Cheers, Number 57 15:53, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I have to disagree. As I see it, those two guidelines could be related to the issue we're discussing, at least to an extent (as I underlined in my message above). Besides, you yourself noted that bidirectional requires that articles linked in the template have the template on that article. Can you really imagine that Template:Presidents of France be included in 2022 French presidential election, or Template:Presidents of the United States within 2024 United States presidential election? I don't think so.
- Let me make a proposal, an idea (or a challenge, if you want so). Feel free to implement your idea and include presidential elections in some "high-profile" templates, like the French or the American one that I mentioned above. If its accepted by the community, then we will have a kind of precedent and you can easily include them in other templates as well (like the Greek, Hungarian or Samoan, as you did before). I see no reason to start with the implementation of such an important change/content addition at those templates that you chose so far, while leaving the "high-profile" ones untouched. Please change them first, and we'll have a precedent to follow.
- Cheers, — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 18:07, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
Can you really imagine that Template:Presidents of France be included in 2022 French presidential election, or Template:Presidents of the United States within 2024 United States presidential election? I don't think so.
Yes I can, if they are the navigational template for that election set they would of course be added. These templates have been added to articles when the elections have been added to them.- The elections have been added to several 'high-profile' templates (e.g. {{Heads of state of Germany}} and {{Presidents of Italy}}) amongst others; as far as I recall, you are the only person to have removed them. Number 57 19:33, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Then, unfortunately, we have to agree to disagree. I can't imagine the inclusion of such templates into articles about presidential elections. Furthermore, the templates have only been connected to articles when the elections have been added to them; the actual inclusion of templates into articles is a different thing. Generally speaking, your idea still seems like a violation of WP:BIDIRECTIONAL to me, and I wouldn't advise its implementation. As I stated above, you may try to implement it at Template:Presidents of the United States and Template:Presidents of France (which have a particularly "high profile"), for the sake of testing the waters, and let us see the reaction. As far as I recall, you are the only person to make or propose this change, and I reverted it where I noticed it. If I have noticed it at the German and the Italian template sometime ago, I would revert it there as well. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:55, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I still don't understand how it is a violation of bidirectional when (for example) {{Presidents of Italy}} appears on every article about a presidential election in Italy? Number 57 20:17, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- You choose a flawed example. As far as I can see, both the Italian and the German template were already included in articles about elections, at the time when you included elections in those templates, some months ago. It would be a different story elsewhere – especially at Template:Presidents of the United States and Template:Presidents of France; so far, elections aren't included there, and the templates aren't added to articles about elections. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 20:28, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I chose a real-life example of a template that contains election links and how it is used on all the election pages. I didn't have to add the template to those pages, I just redirected {{Italian presidential elections}} (which was on them) to the {{Presidents of Italy}} template when I added the elections to it. The two templates you mention don't currently contain links to elections. If they did, they should be added to the election articles. Number 57 20:41, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Again, you used an example of a template that was already present in the articles in question. Your redirecting/merging of the templates makes the example even more flawed. I would surely prefer to have this and this separate from the officeholders' templates, and I really don't see why someone would want to bundle up all of it into a single template.
- The two templates I mention would be the real test of your idea and its survivability – both in term of having elections included into them, and in the term of placing them into the election articles afterwards.
- I see no point in prolonging this discussion further. I'm simply not interested in this issue as much as you are. My proposal (from above) is clear – implement your idea at Template:Presidents of the United States and Template:Presidents of France (and other similar "high-profile" templates), and then at the templates like those you already worked on so far. If the community accept it, I certainly wouldn't revert your edits.
- Cheers, — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 21:04, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- It wasn't 'already present' in the article. What was present was {{Italian elections}}. I really don't understand what is so hard to understand here... Anyway, I agree that unfortunately the direction this discussion is going is increasingly unhelpful and unproductive so I'll leave it there. Number 57 21:08, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- It is all the same, since one of the templates you used was 'already present' in the article – and after the merging you done, the result become visible everywhere (in all connected articles). It is quite the different situation with the templates I mention.
- I really see no point in further discussion. Again, I'm waiting to see your idea implemented at Template:Presidents of the United States and Template:Presidents of France (and similar templates). If the community accept it, I'll accept it as well. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 21:17, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I chose a real-life example of a template that contains election links and how it is used on all the election pages. I didn't have to add the template to those pages, I just redirected {{Italian presidential elections}} (which was on them) to the {{Presidents of Italy}} template when I added the elections to it. The two templates you mention don't currently contain links to elections. If they did, they should be added to the election articles. Number 57 20:41, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- You choose a flawed example. As far as I can see, both the Italian and the German template were already included in articles about elections, at the time when you included elections in those templates, some months ago. It would be a different story elsewhere – especially at Template:Presidents of the United States and Template:Presidents of France; so far, elections aren't included there, and the templates aren't added to articles about elections. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 20:28, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- I still don't understand how it is a violation of bidirectional when (for example) {{Presidents of Italy}} appears on every article about a presidential election in Italy? Number 57 20:17, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
- Then, unfortunately, we have to agree to disagree. I can't imagine the inclusion of such templates into articles about presidential elections. Furthermore, the templates have only been connected to articles when the elections have been added to them; the actual inclusion of templates into articles is a different thing. Generally speaking, your idea still seems like a violation of WP:BIDIRECTIONAL to me, and I wouldn't advise its implementation. As I stated above, you may try to implement it at Template:Presidents of the United States and Template:Presidents of France (which have a particularly "high profile"), for the sake of testing the waters, and let us see the reaction. As far as I recall, you are the only person to make or propose this change, and I reverted it where I noticed it. If I have noticed it at the German and the Italian template sometime ago, I would revert it there as well. — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 19:55, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
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- Lovely! Thank you so much! — Sundostund mppria (talk / contribs) 18:36, 21 May 2026 (UTC)
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Help?
Could you help me to fix my mistake on the List of heads of state of Cambodia article in the Restored monarchy section? I don't know how to fix it. MarketFruit (talk) 19:26, 28 June 2026 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
| The Special Barnstar | |
| Thanks for helping. MarketFruit (talk) 22:21, 28 June 2026 (UTC) |

