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To this. You have requested to delete a page (my sandbox) that included content about Russo-Ukrainian war. This is content starting from Ukraine: ". Key question: what "security guarantees" they are talking about? ... Therefore, your MfD may be regarded as a violation of your topic ban . I assume you did not realize it. Please withdraw the nomination. Then, this should not be counted as a topic ban violation. My very best wishes (talk) 01:16, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Well, if you have BLP concerns about content in my sandbox, why did not you just ask me on my talk page? Then, I would either sourced the claim to RS or removed such content, no problem. If you have any issues with editing by other contributors (me including), please discuss these issues on their talk page first. This allows to minimize disruptions to the project. I would also appreciate if you leave me alone, please, given the previous history. Thank you. My very best wishes (talk) 14:32, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Leave you alone? You're posting on my talk page right now. lol TurboSuperA+_[talk] 17:19, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I am sorry for making such request, but committing a topic ban violation just to make me unhappy does not look good. Would not you agree to follow my advice above? Happy editing! My very best wishes (talk) 19:18, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

I flagged content that is against Wikipedia policy, that also contained numerous BLPVIOs (including a slur), thus falling under WP:BANEX.

Furthermore, an editor !voted "Delete", you yourself blanked the sandbox (recognising that you violated policy), and the closing Admin said anyone can refile the MfD. This means that my report had merit.

I believe I followed Wikipedia policy, I made the MfD request in good faith (I acted in the interest of Wikipedia) and I don't think a TBAN violation occurred.

Your insistence that this is about "removing criticism of Putin" is either willful misrepresentation of my intent or you actually don't understand Wikipedia policy regarding WP:NOTWEBHOST and WP:BLPVIO. If you want me to explain to you why those policies exist, feel free to ask.

Remember, you asked me to leave you alone, yet you continue to post on my Talk page. Is there something that you want? TurboSuperA+_[talk] 19:35, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

No, I do not need anything except things already stated above. As I posted already , I used the sandbox to study various subjects prior to editing them in WP or deciding I would rather not edit them. Writing these little poems in Russian is a part of this process. Writing them helps me to understand and feel these subjects. I believe this does not affect any living people because I am merely summarizing and digesting info that has been widely published already. In particular, what you cited at the MfD was related to Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections. But since I am not editing these subjects any longer, I am comfortable with removing this stuff from the sandbox. If I need something in a future, I will use the sandbox accordingly. My very best wishes (talk) 22:31, 25 June 2026 (UTC)

Why do you have to write these poems on Wikipedia? You have your computer and countless other free sites where you can put them. Nothing is stopping you from starting a blog on Wordpress, blogger, neocities... and then linking to it from your userpage.

You called Trump Hitler, said he launders money through Deutsche Bank and that he is an FSB asset. Then you called Putin a sodomite (a homophobic slur). This may be "digesting info" for you, but it doesn't belong on Wikipedia.

These are Wikipedia policies:

1) You cannot use Wikipedia as your personal blog or scrapbook. Libelous and homophobic poetry in Russian has nothing to do with editing the English Wikipedia.

2) Wikipedia is not an unregulated forum for free speech. "You came to the wrong shop for anarchy, brother."

3) You cannot make unsubstantiated and libelous claims against living people. Regardless of whether you believe it affects them or not.

If you have a problem with these policies and think they should be changed, my Talk page is not the place to do it. I suggest you take it up at the Village Pump. TurboSuperA+_[talk] 05:45, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

The content in the sandbox assisted my editing here, even if this may be not obvious to you. But your BLP-related point is taken, and such content was removed. Other than that, I think that someone analyzing the claims by RS (such as , ), in their sandbox is a legitimate business. I have seen a number of contributors placing various content in their sandboxes, and it was not obvious to me why they need it. But I deferred this to their own judgement per WP:AGF and preferred not to rise any questions about it to avoid conflicts. Sorry for posting here, but you MfD hugely distracted me from my work. My very best wishes (talk) 14:04, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

you MfD hugely distracted me from my work

Do you want me to write a note for your boss? TurboSuperA+_[talk] 18:29, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

Just to be clear, you mistranslated and misinterpreted my texts in Russian. All or most of them can be framed as a summary of RS, which just were not linked in the sandbox, and as such I think were not BLP violations. I removed everything just because I do not have time to fix it. Regardless, your posting was a t-ban violation per closing administrator. My very best wishes (talk) 15:05, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

OK. TurboSuperA+_[talk] 15:07, 27 June 2026 (UTC)

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Libertarian Doctor argument

Hello,

Saw a comment you made so figured I'd drop by here to add a comment that is off topic on that venue. The specific statement you made was, "That just sounds like the libertarian argument "forcing doctors to treat patients is fascism!""

Reason I bring it up is I've seen some interesting debates on this among a few physicians I've worked with. So the argument among them wasn't about "fascism," but slavery. Assuming the framework is the United States, the Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution is "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction." So the resolution the physicians ultimately came up with is that in becoming doctors they swore the Hippocratic Oath, which states, "I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure. I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm." Therefore, they concluded by becoming doctors, they voluntarily entered into medical "service" to all their "fellow human beings." Refusing to treat a patient whom they are capable of treating could therefore be cause for them to lose their title of physician by breaking the oath. That said, they also agreed that it wouldn't be improper to require compensation from a government if they were to compel them to do something, especially if they were unable to take on additional patients due to physical limitations of being humans. Other limitations included refusing to treat someone if the doctor does not believe they are capable of performing the treatment, if they believe the treatment is potentially harmful, or if the patient is actively not consenting. The latter two are why physicians do not participate in lethal injections in the U.S.

This would be the answer to a misguided libertarian who is concerned about doctors being forced to treat patients. If they don't want to treat patients, they are not going to be able to exercise the rights organizations give to physicians, however there are some situations where a physician is obligated to refuse to treat someone that has nothing to do with their personal liberties. Forcing a doctor to do something they believe to be harmful, or against the consent of the patient, would be something to be expected from a fascist government.

Sorry for the long winded post, just wanted to share. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 13:40, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Isn't what you describe similar to Wikipedia editing? When one volounteers here, they agree to certain obligations. For example, communication is required. An editor must communicate, otherwise they get p-blocked and then eventually fully blocked. Nobody can be forced to be a Wikipedia editor, but if they choose to be one, there are things they must hold to. Not choosing to edit is one thing, but saying "I'm going to edit, I just won't help those who are not on the list" is like a doctor saying "I'll come to work, but I'll ignore certain patients, let them suffer if need be". Or a better comparison: nurses not giving medicine and ignoring people who didn't support their strike. Pretty sure if you work in a hospital, you go on strike, strike ends, you can't choose not to treat the people who crossed the picket line. Either you treat everyone or no one at all (don't come to work).

If my analogy is faulty, please let me know how. TurboSuperA+_[talk] 13:59, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

The two are certainly close enough to be considered a parallel in my own opinion. We all have natural rights, but to go beyond those and exercise privileges, we may need to voluntarily forfeit some of our rights. That said, the most one to one relationship to a medical doctor is probably a Wikipedia Admin, as they have additional authority they execute within the community, and they have responsibilities to maintain that authority. For example, failure to do admin tasks per WP:INACTIVITY can cause them to be desysopped. A doctor failing to do doctor tasks could be stripped of their doctor title and made a normal citizen. Your comparison to the current situation with nurses seems accurate enough. GeogSage ^{(⚔Chat?⚔)} 16:14, 29 June 2026 (UTC)

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