Target dates: Opened 24 March 2026 • Evidence closes 23:59, 7 April 2026 (UTC) • Workshop closes 23:59, 14 April 2026 (UTC) • Proposed decision to be posted by 21 April 2026
Scope: disruption related to the Maghreb and the conduct of the named parties in general
Case clerks: Sennecaster (talk) & EggRoll97 (talk) • Drafting arbitrators: HouseBlaster (talk) & SilverLocust (talk) & HJ Mitchell (talk)
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Proposed final decision
Proposals by User:Samuelshraga
Proposed principles
Edit warring
1) Edit warring is not desirable as it disrupts articles and tends to inflame content disputes rather than resolve them. Users who engage in multiple reverts of the same content but are careful not to breach the three revert rule are still edit warring.
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- From Canadian Politics case. Samuelshraga (talk) 05:37, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
Gaming the system
2) Using Wikipedia policies and guidelines in bad faith to thwart the aims of Wikipedia and the process of communal editorship deliberately is gaming, and a disruptive abuse of process. Activities such as coordinating around policy such as the revert rules, or any other attempt to subvert the spirit of any policy or process in order to further a dispute is disruptive.
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- From WP:EEML. Samuelshraga (talk) 05:37, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
Presumption of coordination
3) When a group of editors consistently and repeatedly participate in the same discussions to support the same point of view — especially when many or most of the members of that group had little or no prior participation in the underlying dispute — it is reasonable to presume that they could be coordinating their actions.
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- Part of principles from WP:EEML and Tropical cyclones case. Samuelshraga (talk) 05:37, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think coordination is the best explanation here. asilvering's editor interaction shows extensive interaction, but on 50% of the pages, M. Bitton's and Skitash have "minimum time between edits" at >37 days apart. On about 25% of the pages, the minimum time is >200 days apart. I don't think people coordinating off-wiki will have this much patience. More likely, these individuals have been heavily edited certain topics for a long time.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:42, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Also keep in mind that by sheer chance, the probability of encountering each other increases over time and activity. M. Bitton has made 63,955 edits over 11 years.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:43, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- The principle has already been passed in other cases, so I'm not going to defend it per se, but rather its application here. I think it's unarguable that Skitash and M.Bitton (and to a lesser extent R3YBOl)
consistently and repeatedly participate in the same discussions to support the same point of view
and that they did sowhen many or most of the members of that group had little or no prior participation in the underlying dispute
. See for example this part of Uhoj evidence which addresses the no prior participation part quite specifically, or my evidence as it pertains to repeated WP:MUEW. - If the evidence were limited though to pushing the same POV in the same discussions, I would be more sympathetic to your point - there's an unclear threshold between this as a normal phenomenon between editors who happen to broadly agree on topics where they both edit, and where this becomes a presumed problem. The evidence goes well beyond that though: the 3O manipulation in which Skitash repeatedly subverted a dispute resolution procedure in favour of M.Bitton (Uhoj evidence) without any on-wiki notification or communication about the disputes between the two. Sure, it's possible that Skitash just decided to do this independently, by closely following M.Bitton's contributions, just like it's possible that their collaborative edit warring and support for each other in edit wars and talk page disputes - even those where they've never previously edited - is achieved this way. But it's not possible, as your comment suggests, that this is just a statistical fluke of prolific editors. Samuelshraga (talk) 19:22, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- The principle has already been passed in other cases, so I'm not going to defend it per se, but rather its application here. I think it's unarguable that Skitash and M.Bitton (and to a lesser extent R3YBOl)
Tag-team editing
4) Tag teams work in unison to push a particular point of view. Tag-team editing – to thwart core policies (neutral point of view, verifiability, and no original research); or to evade procedural restrictions such as the three revert rule or to violate behavioural norms by edit warring; or to attempt to exert ownership over articles; or otherwise to prevent consensus prevailing – is prohibited.
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- From WP:ARBR&I. Samuelshraga (talk) 05:37, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
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Sockpuppetry
1) The Maghreb topic area has been subject to persistent sockpuppetry (Samuelshraga, M.Bitton & Skitash's evidence).
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2) Evidence that has been brought to Arbcom about M.Bitton and Skitash's behaviour had previously reached WP:ANI, which repeatedly failed to recognise or deal with the disruption. (Katzrockso, and also Monsieur Patillo, Kowal2701, Super Goku V)
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Monsieur Patillo
3) Monsieur Patillo was subject to an indefinite block (later rescinded) after Skitash wrongly accused him of vandalism (Monsieur Patillo, Katzrockso). Monsieur Patillo made 3 ANI filings about disruptive behaviour from Skitash and (in one of them) M.Bitton after which they received a 1-way interaction ban with Skitash in relation to their conflicts with Skitash and M.Bitton, while ANI failed to recognise or deal with the disruption by Skitash and M.Bitton reported by Monsieur Patillo.(Katzrockso evidence) Some of the same disruptive behaviour such as subversion of the Third Opinion process has now been brought as evidence to the committee.
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Maghreb should be a CT
1)Articles related to the Maghreb region, defined as Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Western Sahara, Mauritania and Libya are designated as a contentious topic area.
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- Adding in light of Daniel Case's proposal below which is probably a requirement for the ECR I think should be added. Modified the scope in light of this message from an AE admin. Samuelshraga (talk) 06:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Also noting that I'm not adding a sunset here, but I hope that this is something that can be repealed eventually. Not every area needs to be a source of interminable disruption just because it was one once. I think it's entirely possible that this topic area could become less contentious. Samuelshraga (talk) 08:08, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with SnowFire's comments below that the problem at hand isn't that the Maghreb is a contentious topic, but rather the disruptive behavior of certain editors. Designating the Maghreb as a CT indefinitely would likely be an
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, as you've stated. A sunset clause is preferable if a CT designation is absolutely necessary, and I believe your extended-confirmed restriction proposal has its merits. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 12:33, 14 April 2026 (UTC)- I am totally neutral on whether a sunset clause is added to this by default. If it isn't it is my hope that the committee would be able to repeal it in a year if the topic area isn't too hot. The "reason" I suggest adding it (even if temporarily) as a CT is because it occurred to me it would be a prerequisite for applying an ECR, but if not then I would walk back this proposal (basically we agree). Samuelshraga (talk) 12:39, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with SnowFire's comments below that the problem at hand isn't that the Maghreb is a contentious topic, but rather the disruptive behavior of certain editors. Designating the Maghreb as a CT indefinitely would likely be an
- Also noting that I'm not adding a sunset here, but I hope that this is something that can be repealed eventually. Not every area needs to be a source of interminable disruption just because it was one once. I think it's entirely possible that this topic area could become less contentious. Samuelshraga (talk) 08:08, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- This should be Mauritania, no? I would suggest expanding the scope to explicitly include ethnic groups (e.g. Kabyles & Berbers) and language (e.g. Amazigh), since those have been significant loci of disruptionKatzrockso (talk) 12:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oops - fixed, thanks. Re: the proposal about specifying explicitly the areas most likely to be disrupted, I'm not sure exactly what language would work but it might be a good idea because the topic area is extremely broad. Samuelshraga (talk) 12:43, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I would propose borrowing language from other topic areas that extend to language and ethnicity. WP:CT/IPA states
All pages related to the region of South Asia (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal), broadly construed, including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups.
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Politics, ethnic relations, and conflicts involving Armenia, Azerbaijan, or both—broadly construed and explicitly including the Armenian genocide—are placed under an extended confirmed restriction.
(WP:CT/AA is less explicit). - Something like
All pages related to the Maghreb region (Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Western Sahara, Mauritania and Libya), broadly construed, including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, language and social groups
might work. I am not sure ifsocial groups
have been the subject of any contention, so that might be unnecessary. Katzrockso (talk) 15:03, 14 April 2026 (UTC)- Given this motion, the words "broadly construed" are unnecessary. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I would propose borrowing language from other topic areas that extend to language and ethnicity. WP:CT/IPA states
- Oops - fixed, thanks. Re: the proposal about specifying explicitly the areas most likely to be disrupted, I'm not sure exactly what language would work but it might be a good idea because the topic area is extremely broad. Samuelshraga (talk) 12:43, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Precious little evidence was presented to support the notion that Tunisia, Mauritania, or Libya are contentious. The bulk of the evidence concerns Arabs vs other ethnic groups (especially Berbers) and Algeria vs Morocco. Uhoj (talk) 18:58, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- This pretty much sums it up, infact a large portion of Berber related pages that were frequented by Skitash and M.Bitton are now placed under "Neutrality of this article is disputed" warnings Yaghmosus (talk) 19:14, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure that Tunisia has featured in the parties' disputes, but I agree that the topic area as defined in my proposal is significantly broader than the disruption. Workshopping down the definition of the topic area is probably a good space for improvement here. Samuelshraga (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Adding in light of Daniel Case's proposal below which is probably a requirement for the ECR I think should be added. Modified the scope in light of this message from an AE admin. Samuelshraga (talk) 06:03, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed protection (limited duration)
2)For 12 months following the closing of this case, the topic of the Maghreb will fall under the extended-confirmed restriction.
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- Adding reasoning here because I doubt it's self-evident.
- The reason for a temporary ECR is to mitigate what I think the effects of this case might be:
- I think it's likely that the off-wiki forums where new editors came and clashed with some of the parties to this case will see an opportunity at its conclusion to get stuck in promoting POVs that have previously been stonewalled (Moroccan claims to Western Sahara and Berber language names are two obvious ones). An ECR might temper this wave, and allow some of these newcomers to understand the rules and how to judge where their preferred changes are appropriate and where they aren't.
- A year's ECR might also convince some of the sockpuppeteers who want to participate in the topic area to come in from the cold and take the WP:STANDARDOFFER.
- I suggest a sunset because it's a really broad topic area so an ECR is quite an extreme step, and the remedy is as much to deal with the effects of a resolution of this case, as to deal with the sockpuppet problem that has come up in evidence. Samuelshraga (talk) 17:44, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't think this is a good idea since this wont restricted most of the Involved parties especially the ones that have the most evidence against them. Yaghmosus (talk) 18:17, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- While this doesn't restrict the involved parties (there are other proposals elsewhere in this workshop for topic/site bans), I believe Samuelshraga makes clear that this is a preventative measure for
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who might take advantage of an involved parties' restrictions and re-add contentious / POV edits. Though the off-wiki evidence is private, I believe the evidence of sockpuppetry supports these concerns. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:49, 14 April 2026 (UTC)- I see, would like to add that just a semi protection would be enough for the issue you stated, as full protection would also lock out people who only edit from time to time (like me in this case) Yaghmosus (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- @Yaghmosus I see your point that it would lock you out - and to be honest that's not very fair as I don't think you've done anything wrong. However I think it might be temporarily necessary because of what I expect will happen from a lot of other areas. Maybe a 6 month sunset would be better. Just to confirm what Nice4What says, it's absolutely true that this restriction won't restrict the parties who have been the source of most of the disruption so far, but it's aiming to prevent disruption that is reasonably foreseeable from new users and established sockpuppeteers using new accounts (and to incentivise them to go legit). Samuelshraga (talk) 19:28, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I see, would like to add that just a semi protection would be enough for the issue you stated, as full protection would also lock out people who only edit from time to time (like me in this case) Yaghmosus (talk) 19:00, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- While this doesn't restrict the involved parties (there are other proposals elsewhere in this workshop for topic/site bans), I believe Samuelshraga makes clear that this is a preventative measure for
- I don't think this is a good idea since this wont restricted most of the Involved parties especially the ones that have the most evidence against them. Yaghmosus (talk) 18:17, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I suggest a sunset because it's a really broad topic area so an ECR is quite an extreme step, and the remedy is as much to deal with the effects of a resolution of this case, as to deal with the sockpuppet problem that has come up in evidence. Samuelshraga (talk) 17:44, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
Proposals by User:Daniel Case
Proposed remedies
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Maghreb designated a contentious topic area
1) Articles related to the Maghreb region of Africa, defined broadly as Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia and Western Sahara, are a contentious topic area.
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- This remedy is my only reason for participating in this case. I have been calling for it for a long time as the ANEW reports and page protection requests over the past several years continue to match or sometimes even exceed those arising from the long-designated, similar Horn of Africa contentious topic area, which covers a few countries in another corner of the continent. I am not sure about the countries I have listed ... Libya is often considered part of the Maghreb but does not seem to have generated any editing problems, but Mauritania may have. That can be fixed before this proposal is adopted. (belatedly signed) Daniel Case (talk) 17:48, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Proposals by Robert McClenon
Proposed Principles
Purpose of Wikipedia
The purpose of Wikipedia is to create a high-quality, free-content encyclopedia in an atmosphere of camaraderie and mutual respect among contributors. Use of the site for other purposes, such as advocacy or propaganda or furtherance of outside conflicts is prohibited. Contributors whose actions are detrimental to that goal may be asked to refrain from them, even when these actions are undertaken in good faith.
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Neutral point of view
All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view, with all relevant points of view represented in reasonable proportion to their importance and relevance to the subject-matter of the article. Undue weight should not be given to aspects that are peripheral to the topic. Original research and synthesized claims are prohibited. Use of a Wikipedia article for advocacy or promotion, either in favor of or against an individual, institution, or idea that is the subject of the article, is prohibited.
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Battleground conduct
Wikipedia is a reference work, not a battleground. Each and every user is expected to interact with others civilly, calmly, and in a spirit of cooperation. Borderline personal attacks and edit-warring are incompatible with this spirit. Use of the site to pursue feuds and quarrels is extremely disruptive, flies directly in the face of our key policies and goals, and is prohibited. Editors who are unable to resolve their personal or ideological differences are expected to keep mutual contact to a minimum. If battling editors fail to disengage, they may be compelled to do so through the imposition of restrictions.
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Criticism and casting aspersions
An editor must not accuse another of inappropriate conduct without evidence, especially when the accusations are repeated or severe. Comments should not be personalized, but should instead be directed at content and specific actions. Disparaging an editor or casting aspersions can be considered a personal attack. If accusations are made, they should be raised, with evidence, on the user-talk page of the editor they concern or in the appropriate dispute resolution forums.
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Role of the Arbitration Committee
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Dispute resolution
Disagreements concerning article content are to be resolved by seeking to build consensus through the use of polite discussion. The dispute resolution process is designed to assist consensus-building when normal talk page communication has not worked, or when discussion has broken down. When there is a good-faith dispute, editors are expected to participate in the consensus-building process through discussion, collaboration and consideration, rather than simply edit-warring back-and-forth to competing versions. Sustained editorial conflict and using the dispute resolution processes to game the system is not an appropriate way of resolving conduct disputes. -2011-11
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Refusal to use dispute resolution
Some uses of the dispute resolution procedures, such as Third Opinion and Dispute Resolution Noticeboard are voluntary. However, repeated refusal to use dispute resolution procedures is inconsistent with the collaborative nature of the editing of Wikipedia. Repeated refusal to use dispute resolution procedures may be construed as tendentious and may result in sanctions.
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- This is not a good principle to set in the general case. Users do not have to engage in dispute resolution. However, a user declining to engage in dispute resolution is still responsible for their behavior, and needs to stop having disputes. Hold a binding RFC if the matter is content, or escalate to ANI / Arbcom if truly crossing the line into claimed sanctionable misconduct on one side. The problem is that there are good faith editors who should not feel "obligated" to go into a dispute resolution they feel is counterproductive or mountain-from-a-molehill, and there are disruptive editors whose form of disruption is insisting on long, extensive arguments everywhere. The DRN is useful but it's much more useful when all parties go there voluntarily to hash out a dispute. If parties feel "forced" then DRN will be less likely to resolve an issue.
- Of course, it's fine as a piece of evidence if certain parties are edit warring and not being collaborative, whether that be in edit summaries, the talk page, or a lack of appearance at DRN. But it's a whole-spectrum view that matters, i.e. an editor who is edit warring and rude and gaming the system is a problem, even if someone doing this (hypothetically) also participated in dispute resolution. SnowFire (talk) 04:48, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with SnowFire in that I don't think the issue in this case, and certainly not the principle I'd generalise, is about refusal to engage in formal dispute resolution procedures. It's more about the general refusal to let disputes be resolved, and in this extreme case about the deliberate stymieing of efforts to resolve disputes that evidence showed very clearly with subversion of Third Opinion.
- The line from the previous proposed principle seems better suited:
Sustained editorial conflict and using the dispute resolution processes to game the system is not an appropriate way of resolving conduct disputes.
I think if we just removed the word "conduct" (so that it also covers content disputes) or repeated the line with "content" instead, we'd cover the same ground in a way that I think would better articulate the general behavioural expectation that has been at issue here. Samuelshraga (talk) 07:18, 14 April 2026 (UTC) Users do not have to engage in dispute resolution
That's correct in one sense - users don't have to engage in dispute resolution, but they are expected to.Wikipedia contributors are expected to pursue dispute resolution if internal discussion alone does not yield consensus on a matter of content
is from the Muhammad images case . Katzrockso (talk) 15:34, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Behavioral standards
Wikipedia editors are expected to behave reasonably, calmly, and courteously in their interactions with other editors; to approach even difficult situations in a dignified fashion and with a constructive and collaborative outlook; and to avoid acting in a manner that brings the project into disrepute. Unseemly conduct, such as personal attacks, incivility, assumptions of bad faith, harassment, disruptive point-making, and gaming the system, is prohibited.
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Tag-team editing
4) Tag teams work in unison to push a particular point of view. Tag-team editing – to thwart core policies (neutral point of view, verifiability, and no original research); or to evade procedural restrictions such as the three revert rule or to violate behavioural norms by edit warring; or to attempt to exert ownership over articles; or otherwise to prevent consensus prevailing – is prohibited.
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Presumption of coordination
3) When a group of editors consistently and repeatedly participate in the same discussions to support the same point of view — especially when many or most of the members of that group had little or no prior participation in the underlying dispute — it is reasonable to presume that they could be coordinating their actions.
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Proposed Findings of fact
Locus of Dispute
This case relates to tendentious editing of articles about the [[Mahgreb\\ region of North Africa, especially about Algeria, and the conduct of certain editors in that region.
M. Bitton
The editing of M.Bitton has largely focused on the Maghreb region, and especially Algeria, and has been tendentious
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M. Bitton and DRN
M. Bitton has been named as a party at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard 20 times. They were not properly notified 7 times. They declined to take part 13 times, usually by erasing the notice.
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Skitash
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Skitash and DRN
Skitash has been named as a party at the Dispute Resolution Noticeboard 9 times. They declined to take part 5 times, usually by erasing the notice.
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Tag Teaming
M.Bitton and Skitash have acted as a tag team to interfere with editing of articles about the Maghreb region.
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Contentious Topic
The Maghreb is designated as a contentious topic.
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M.Bitton Admonished
M.Bitton is admonished by the Arbitration Committee for tendentious editing in the topic of the Maghreb.
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M.Bitton Topic-Banned
M.Bitton is topic-banned from the topic of the Maghreb. This ban may be appealed in twelve months.
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Skitash Admonished
Skitash is admonished by the Arbitration Committee for tendentious editing in the topic of the Maghreb.
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Proposals by SnowFire
Proposed principles
Civility
1) Editors are expected to show reasonable courtesy to one another, even during contentious situations and disagreements. See Wikipedia:Civility and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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- Taken from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Civility, which has 3 different versions. I just took the first of the set. Civility is not optional. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Neutral point of view
2) All Wikipedia articles must be written from a neutral point of view; that is, they must fairly portray all significant points of view on a subject in accordance with their prevalence. Wikipedia is a mirror for human knowledge: it seeks to reflect, and not distort, the current state of thought on a subject.
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- Taken from Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Principles#Neutral point of view, which has a ton of different versions. I just took the first of the set. This is "do not be a POV-pusher" principle. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Proposed findings of fact
M. Bitton
1) M. Bitton has been uncivil and non-collaborative (Mdm. Bla, Uhoj, Samuelshraga, asilvering, JayBeeEll, kowal2701, LEvalyn, jacobolus, WikiUser4020, Super Goku V, Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction, Alaexis, ElijahUHC, Yaghmosus, Katzrockso, AndreJustAndre), and gamed the system via using claims of Wikipedia policies and claimed rules but actually in service of pushing a point-of-view (Uhoj, Samuelshraga, asilvering, kowal2701, Nice4What, LEvalyn, Sirfurboy, Bananakingler, PositivelyUncertain, Yaghmosus, Scharb, HetmanTheResearcher, SnowFire, Monsieur Patillo, AndreJustAndre). These disruptions extend to topics only loosely related to the Maghreb such as food, dogs, and mathematics (Samuelshraga, asilvering, JayBeeEll, Kowal2701, jacobolus, GeogSage, Super Goku V, Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction, HetmanTheResearcher). SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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- It might be worth noting that these alleged disruptions have extended to topics not related to the Maghreb as well (1,2,3) (unless this needs more evidence?). Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 15:07, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think the edit warring and tag-teaming deserve a mention here, especially as they were so extensive. Ditto with proposed FoF on Skitash below. Samuelshraga (talk) 20:06, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Skitash
2) Skitash has been uncivil and non-collaborative (Mdm. Bla, Uhoj, Samuelshraga, asilvering, LEvalyn, jacobolus, WikiUser4020, Super Goku V, Stepwise Continuous Dysfunction, ElijahUHC, Yaghmosus, Katzrockso, AndreJustAndre), and gamed the system via using claims of Wikipedia policies and claimed rules but actually in service of pushing a point-of-view (Uhoj, Samuelshraga, asilvering, Nice4What, LEvalyn, Bananakingler, Yaghmosus, Monsieur Patillo, AndreJustAndre). SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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Proposed remedies
M. Bitton banned
1) M. Bitton is indefinitely banned. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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- I disagree with a diagnosis of the problem that the Maghreb is a contentious topic. The problem is that there are editors involved who are not complying by Wikipedia expectations of civility and neutrality and avoidance of edit wars, per presented evidence. I wouldn't normally offer remedies in Workshop, but offer this due to other proposals that understate the severity of the problems here and misidentify the cause. Remove the specific editors causing problems in multiple topic areas and who are displaying an uncivil style which is unlikely to improve on other topics, and I imagine the topic area of the Maghreb will settle down naturally. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think you're probably right that the Maghreb does not need to be a contentious topic indefinitely, and that most of the disruption is about the specific parties here. However there is a genuine issue of sockpuppetry against M.Bitton and Skitash (and for such things as Berber identity and language, Moroccan nationalism including claims on Western Sahara). I think making it a contentious topic for a while will help keep a lot of the disputed content more stable, even as there's doubtless going to be a significant correction after this case (I foresee a lot more Tifinagh names in the future). Otherwise I think that that correction could easily become an over-correction. Hopefully in a year or so things will be settled and a contentious topic designation could be repealed. Samuelshraga (talk) 07:29, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- These were my thoughts as well. Maybe a recommendation to have a motion to make it a CTOP if there are further ANI/ANEW reports over the next year? Imo the only bespoke remedy needed from the drafters is how to mitigate sockpuppetry and off-wiki coordination in the short term. It's already a very quiet topic area, if this results in tbans and site bans it'd become a ghost town. Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 13:28, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- While I am disappointed in the conduct of M.Bitton (from the evidence provided and their actions during this case),
in my opinion I believe that this is likely excessive.--Super Goku V (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2026 (UTC)- I am of the belief that a topic ban (Maghreb) likely isn't enough for M.Bitton based on the evidence provided by SnowFire,
though perhaps "indefinitely" makes it excessive. I am not well versed in arbitration, but could the option to appeal after a year or two be worth considering?Anyone feel free to correct me regarding the norms. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 18:56, 14 April 2026 (UTC); edited 19:58, 14 April 2026 (UTC). - Having re-read the evidence again, I can see where their actions have met the grounds to at least be temporarily blocked. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:01, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I am of the belief that a topic ban (Maghreb) likely isn't enough for M.Bitton based on the evidence provided by SnowFire,
- Again, I'm not seeing such a harsh remedy be substantiated by evidence. They have made positive contributions outside of Maghreb area: Al-Morabito Mosque, Medo-Babylonian conquest of the Assyrian Empire (which they helped become a GA) etc.VR (Please ping on reply) 19:06, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has banned many users who made excellent contributions. WP:CIVILITY is a dead letter if it can be deflected with "that's a nice article they wrote." More generally, I don't have high confidence that the documented problems in one domain don't extend to others. Someone who twists sources and rules in one region likely does so elsewhere. SnowFire (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- @SnowFire I've been observing this case from a distance, but on a similar note, I'd like to echo here what I wrote during PIA5 (and also applied to a degree during ATC2). I've trimmed it for conciseness/relevance, as the original statement addressed an arb's vote rather than an uninvolved editor's opinion:
"aside from the persistent incivility they're really quite a good editor," ... effectively makes them a WP:UNBLOCKABLE because it's been clearly stated ... that their civility issues can be partially excused by their quality of edits. That's, in my opinion, an awful precedent to set, not just for ARBPIA but for enwiki as a whole.
The Kip (contribs) 19:45, 14 April 2026 (UTC)- Snowfire and Kip, you would actually need to demonstrate that problems in one area extend to another, people aren't guilty by presumption. I've edited alongside M.Bitton for many years now, and I've found their approach to be constructive and civil (even if terse at times) on Islam-related articles, which has been a mutual focus of ours. VR (Please ping on reply) 21:25, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Evidence presented by other users showed that these issues extend beyond the Maghreb topic area. The article on Jesus is a good example of this. HetmanTheResearcher (talk) 21:42, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Snowfire and Kip, you would actually need to demonstrate that problems in one area extend to another, people aren't guilty by presumption. I've edited alongside M.Bitton for many years now, and I've found their approach to be constructive and civil (even if terse at times) on Islam-related articles, which has been a mutual focus of ours. VR (Please ping on reply) 21:25, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- The first one is a stub from 10 years ago, the second they made 4 edits fixing someone's sfn errors . Kowal2701 (talk, contribs) 20:18, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has banned many users who made excellent contributions. WP:CIVILITY is a dead letter if it can be deflected with "that's a nice article they wrote." More generally, I don't have high confidence that the documented problems in one domain don't extend to others. Someone who twists sources and rules in one region likely does so elsewhere. SnowFire (talk) 19:24, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I disagree with a diagnosis of the problem that the Maghreb is a contentious topic. The problem is that there are editors involved who are not complying by Wikipedia expectations of civility and neutrality and avoidance of edit wars, per presented evidence. I wouldn't normally offer remedies in Workshop, but offer this due to other proposals that understate the severity of the problems here and misidentify the cause. Remove the specific editors causing problems in multiple topic areas and who are displaying an uncivil style which is unlikely to improve on other topics, and I imagine the topic area of the Maghreb will settle down naturally. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Partially in response to Kowal2701 above, I've seen M.Bitton for many, many years fight vandalism and bad editing on a variety of Islam-related and Middle East-related articles (I can't say about the Maghreb topic-area because I don't have much experience there). I am happy to provide diffs, but I realize the evidence phase is already closed. And the last admin (Yamla) to block M.Bitton also noted "You have a significant number of constructive edits here" (which was presented in Samuelshraga's evidence section).VR (Please ping on reply) 21:25, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Also want to note that after their last block, M.Bitton apologized and expressed remorse for their actions that feels genuine to me. They've also made efforts to mend fences with whom they have disagreements. VR (Please ping on reply) 00:01, 15 April 2026 (UTC)
Skitash banned
2) Skitash is indefinitely banned. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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- See above comment. SnowFire (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- While I agree the evidence presented suggests the behavior by M.Bitton extends beyond the Maghreb topic area, is the same the case for Skitash? If not, is an indefinite ban proportional to the conduct or would a topic ban sufficiently curtail the disruption? Katzrockso (talk) 12:31, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- The tag-team edit warring between Skitash and R3YBOl (my evidence) is not confined to the Maghreb topic area, and Skitash's advocacy for Arabic names/languages as against others isn't either. Samuelshraga (talk) 12:45, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think the case for "only" a topic ban is stronger here, but per asilvering's evidence, I'm not confident that an editor who produces something like () will produce a neutral article on a non-Maghreb related movement / extremist group / activists / faction / etc. SnowFire (talk) 15:27, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- For reference, I believe it is Asilvering. Katzrockso (talk) 16:34, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I'm really not seeing this be substantiated by the evidence. Most of the evidence focuses on disruption on the Maghreb area. Skitash has significant positive contributions outside this area (User:Skitash#Articles_created).VR (Please ping on reply) 17:51, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- If Skitash is truly civil/constructive elsewhere on Wikipedia (evidence might need to be provided), then perhaps a topic ban (Maghreb) is more appropriate than a siteban. I am, however, convinced by TheKip's point that creating quality articles does not give a free pass for misconduct. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:52, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- While I am disappointed in the conduct of Skitash (from the evidence provided, their actions this year, and their actions during this case),
in my opinion I believe that this might be excessive.--Super Goku V (talk) 18:46, 14 April 2026 (UTC)- As with the above, I can see where their actions have met the grounds to at least be temporarily blocked. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:01, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Proposals by User:Katzrockso
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Consensus
1) Disagreements concerning article content are to be resolved by seeking to build consensus through the use of polite discussion. The dispute resolution process is designed to assist consensus-building when normal talk page communication has not worked. When there is a good-faith dispute, editors are expected to participate in the consensus-building process and to carefully consider other editors' views, rather than simply edit-warring back-and-forth to competing versions. Sustained editorial conflict is not an appropriate method of resolving content disputes
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- From the Gibraltar case.
Wikilawyering and stonewalling
2) Excessive formalistic and legalistic argument over policies and stonewalling, which ignores the spirit of those policies and serves to obstruct consensus-building processes or cover up an agenda of POV-pushing, is harmful to the project and may be met with sanctions
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- From the Portals case
Bludgeoning
3) In formal discussions, less is usually more. Editors who choose to ignore this advice by replying to a large number of comments can bludgeon the discussion. Bludgeoning exhausts other editors, dissuades further participation, wastes time, and makes discussions less effective. Editors should avoid repeating the same point or making so many comments that they dominate the discussion. Editors should particularly avoid trying to convince specific other people that they are right and the other person is wrong, and should instead focus on presenting their own ideas as clearly and concisely as possible.
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- From WP:ARBPIA5
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4) Wikipedia articles must be neutral, verifiable and must not contain original research. Those founding principles (the Pillars) are not negotiable and cannot be overruled, even when apparent consensus to do so exists
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M.Bitton behavior
1) M.Bitton has engaged in non-neutral editing and POV-pushing on a number of articles (Samuelshraga evidence, asilvering evidence, Kowal2701 evidence, LEvalyn evidence, Scharb evidence, Monsieur Patillo evidence, Uhoj evidence, Bananakingler evidence). M.Bitton has engaged in disruptive editing practices, such as stonewalling (Kowal2701 evidence, Nice4What evidence) and bludgeoning (Sirfurboy evidence, Monsieur Patillo evidence). M.Bitton has engaged in uncivil behavior (Katzrockso evidence, WikiUser4020 evidence, HetmanTheResearcher evidence, Scharb evidence) that WP:BITE new editors (Mdm.Bla evidence, Alaexis evidence). M.Bitton has engaged in edit warring (Super Goku V evidence, LEvalyn evidence, Kowal2701 evidence, Nice4What evidence).
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Tag-teaming
2) Skitash, M.Bitton and R3YBOl have operated as a WP:TAGTEAM to support each others POV (AndreJustAndre evidence, Kowal2701 evidence, ToBeFree evidence, Katzrockso evidence, Uhoj evidence). RY3BOI, Skitash and M.Bitton subverted the purpose of the third opinion noticeboard (Uhoj evidence, Samuelshraga evidence, Bananakingler evidence).
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Proposals by Super Goku V
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National and territorial disputes
?) Several of Wikipedia's most bitter disputes have revolved around national or ethnic conflicts such as rival national claims to disputed territories or areas. Editors working on articles on these topics may frequently have strong viewpoints, often originating in their own national or other backgrounds. Such editors may be the most knowledgeable people interested in creating Wikipedia content about the area or the dispute, and are permitted and encouraged to contribute if they can do so consistent with Wikipedia's fundamental policies. However, conduct that furthers a preexisting dispute on Wikipedia should receive special attention from the community, up to and including sanctions. It is perfectly possible to present a balanced, accurate, and verifiable encyclopedia article about contentious issues or preexisting disputes.
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- 4.1.7 at WP:ARBPIA5. --Super Goku V (talk) 18:39, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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Locus of the dispute
?) This case is in regards to conduct issues in both editing and discussions in the North African (Maghreb) region.
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- Influenced by 4.2.1 of WP:ARBATC2, WP:ARBINFOBOX2, and WP:ARBIMH. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Biting of newcomers
?) Participants in this topic area have violated the guidelines at WP:BITING of avoiding biting genuine newcomers by tag-teaming or otherwise appearing to work together to hinder or otherwise block contributions from newer editors. (Mdm.Bla evidence, Samuelshraga evidence, Super Goku V evidence, Alaexis evidence)
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- I accidentally deleted my notes on this, but part of the wording ("avoiding biting genuine newcomers") was based on an arbitration case regarding administrator expectations. (Always have a backup copy of your notes...) --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Appearance of collaborative editing
?) M.Bitton, Skitash, and R3YBOl have given an appearance of co-coordinating together primarily through their reverts to various articles and their edit warnings to users editing in the Maghreb area, along with their on-wiki comments to each other. (Mdm.Bla evidence, Uhoj evidence, Samuelshraga evidence, Kowal2701 evidence, Nice4What evidence, LEvalyn evidence, Super Goku V evidence, ElijahUHC evidence, Katzrockso evidence)
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- Slightly based on this proposed remedy at the workshop for WP:ARBSCE. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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ECP by default
?) All articles whose topic is strictly within the Maghreb topic area shall be extended confirmed protected by default, without requiring prior disruption on the article.
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- Modified 4.3.1 at WP:ARBPIA5. Requires either a contentious topic area or an extended-confirmed restriction proposal to pass first. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- (I do believe a CT or ECR is recommended, but I was undecided as to which was needed, hence why I didn't propose either here.) --Super Goku V (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Modified 4.3.1 at WP:ARBPIA5. Requires either a contentious topic area or an extended-confirmed restriction proposal to pass first. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
M.Bitton-Skitash-R3YBOl discussion interaction restriction
?a) M.Bitton, Skitash, and R3YBOl are indefinitely prohibited from interacting with each other's discussions with regards to Wikipedia:Third opinion (subject to the ordinary exceptions). They are allow to participate together in discussions that have not had a third opinion request posted. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed.
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- Based on 3.3.1 at Ebionites 3. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
M.Bitton-Skitash-R3YBOl third opinion restriction
?b) M.Bitton, Skitash, and R3YBOl are indefinitely considered to be one party with regards to Wikipedia:Third opinion (subject to the ordinary exceptions). They are allow to participate together in discussions that have a third opinion request posted, but cannot remove a third opinion request by participating. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed.
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- A modified version of the above restriction based on 3.3.1 at Ebionites 3. Not fully what I would recommend, but it is an alternative to the above and something along this line might be better. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
M.Bitton revert restrictions
?a) M.Bitton is restricted from reverting more than once (WP:1RR) on articles in the Maghreb region. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed. This restriction will automatically expire 36 months after the Maghreb region is no longer designated as either a contentious topic area or under an extended-confirmed restriction.
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- Personally believe something like this is recommended given the evidence. First half is based on memories of past actions. The last sentence allows for these restrictions to expire after enough time has passed so that they are not permanent, though the Committee might decide otherwise that an indefinite restriction is more preferred. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Skitash revert restrictions
?b) Skitash is restricted from reverting more than once (WP:1RR) on articles in the Maghreb region. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed. This restriction will automatically expire 36 months after the Maghreb region is no longer designated as either a contentious topic area or under an extended-confirmed restriction.
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- Personally believe something like this is recommended given the evidence and actions during the case. First half is based on memories of past actions. The last sentence allows for these restrictions to expire after enough time has passed so that they are not permanent, though the Committee might decide otherwise that an indefinite restriction is more preferred. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Bananakingler revert restrictions
?c) Bananakingler is restricted from reverting more than once (WP:1RR) on articles in the Maghreb region. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed. This restriction will automatically expire 36 months after the Maghreb region is no longer designated as either a contentious topic area or under an extended-confirmed restriction.
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- Personally believe something like this is recommended given the evidence and actions during the case. First half is based on memories of past actions. The last sentence allows for these restrictions to expire after enough time has passed so that they are not permanent, though the Committee might decide otherwise that an indefinite restriction is more preferred. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
R3YBOl revert restrictions
?d) R3YBOl is restricted from reverting more than once (WP:1RR) on articles in the Maghreb region. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed. This restriction will automatically expire 36 months after the Maghreb region is no longer designated as either a contentious topic area or under an extended-confirmed restriction.
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- While I personally believe something like this is recommended given the evidence, I believe that this one might be most difficult to pass as R3YBOl reverted the least of the parties out of all of the evidence presented. First half is based on memories of past actions. The last sentence allows for these restrictions to expire after enough time has passed so that they are not permanent, though the Committee might decide otherwise that an indefinite restriction is more preferred. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Bananakingler's extended confirm revoked
?) Bananakingler has their extended confirm revoked. They may re-earn it by making 500 new edits. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed.
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- Personally, I believe that Bananakingler needs not just a break from this topic area, but from the main contentious topic areas. They are a new user who is still learning our policies and procedures. I believe that their interactions with other parties in this case have not helped them positively learn how to work with the community and that they have instead picked up some bad habits from their interactions in the Maghreb region. I feel that this is a chance for them to effectively reset and attempt to learn how to edit, though I will admit that this is an unusual proposal. --Super Goku V (talk) 21:55, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
M.Bitton banned
?a) M.Bitton is banned from Wikipedia for a period of three months. They are also topic-banned indefinitely from editing any article relating to the Maghreb topic area, broadly construed. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed.
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- Based on 4.3.2 at WP:ARBSAQ. An alternative to at least one proposed remedy. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
Skitash banned
?b) Skitash is banned from Wikipedia for a period of three months. They are also topic-banned indefinitely from editing any article relating to the Maghreb topic area, broadly construed. This restriction can be appealed 12 months after this case is closed.
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- Based on 4.3.2 at WP:ARBSAQ. An alternative to at least one proposed remedy. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:20, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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Bananakingler analysis of Skitash's submission
1) I would like to draw attention to Bananakingler's conduct, which had been almost entirely focused on Berber identity-related topics.
: My edits are not „almost entirely focused on Berber identity“. I have an interest in Amazigh heritage but for example I added an Arab etymology of the guelaya tribe of Nador , as well as other improvements that have nothing to do with „Berber identity“ Yeah I am interested in North Africa and Amazigh heritage. Am I not allowed to have an interest in an topic without being called a „Single Purpose Account“ ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bananakingler (talk • contribs)
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2) Skitash about bananakingler: They have repeatedly restored the same disputed content across multiple articles despite opposition, including: Tangier-Tétouan-Al Hoceima, Azrou, Nador
: Bananakingler „Despite opposition“ yeah… skitash was the opposition. The „disputed content“ was the Amazigh name of the city according to the Moroccan government. I regret edit warring about it. However skitash was the one edit warring as well while deleting the well sourced official name. It’s not an excuse and I will try better for the future but it’s wild for me that the other party of the edit war puts this here. About Azrou Yeah I removed the word „minority“ cause the source does not say that it is a minority. The sentence makes perfect sense without using the word. After skitash reverted my edits, I added an disputed tag, which skitash removed too. It was really important to him to frame Amazigh people as a minority without talking about it. On Nador, I tried to discuss the topic with him for weeks but he didn’t answer. so yeah at one point I readded it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bananakingler (talk • contribs)
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3) They have continued to pursue old content disputes even after asilvering explicitly instructed them to leave me alone, reopening disputes on Tamazgha, Oriental (Morocco), Berbers, Berber Spring, Tangier-Tétouan-Al Hoceima, etc.
: yeah.. we never before had any dispute or contact on Tamazgha, Berbers, Berber Spring. About the Tifinagh name on tangier tetouan al hoceima was already spoken, so he repeats the same point to make it seem more dramatic. Also asilvering did say that I should leave him in peace, which I did by despite skitash acting in fault towards me, I stopped to accuse him of his behavior. Skitash is twisting here what asilvering meant by that statement. asilvering never talked about me not being allowed to edit articles that skitash at some point in the past edited. Bananakingler (talk) 13:01, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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4) General unhelpful changes like repeatedly removing the word "minority" from the sourced 2024 census statement "a minority of 13.8% natively speak Berber languages" claiming the word itself is unsourced WP:OR.
: how is it „unhelpful“ to remove a word that rates the numbers? The sentence functions wonderful without the word „minority“. Still they insist that it has to be included for some reason. Yeah I was overwhelmed cause i did in fact not know better, while I was also exhausted that every little thing I edit has to become a dumb discussion Bananakingler (talk) 13:50, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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5) After I reverted them for restoring disputed content, they brought it to Drmies's talk page, accusing me of edit warring. They subsequently reverted me on the same article, making three reverts within 24 hours.
: yeah skitash was edit warring just as I was. The only difference being that i accept my fault while he still believes he did everything right. However I did not do 3 reverts within 24 hours. That’s a straight up misinformation. my edits were the following: (25. March, 7:44 ) the addition of tifinagh in a comment together with Arabic. this has never been added like this before. But for sake of argument let’s say it is a revert cause at some point in the past had removed tifinagh 1 revert. (26. March, 12:46). addition of {notelist} Not a revert cause in my addition before I forgot to add it. While I was adding it, another user reverted me(26.03., 13:06) second revert (26.03, 14:30) After the first edit more than 24 hours passed, the second edit and forth edits were in fact reverts but the third was not. So in my understanding skitashs statement is plainly incorrect. He repeated this misinformation on multiple places towards multiple persons, inclusively towards the mod who gave him an me a temp ban for edit warring during the Arbcom case. Bananakingler (talk) 14:40, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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6) Issuing edit war warnings after an editor reverts their unsourced addition once.
: The editor was m.bitton. An editor with a history of edit warring for weird reasons. The funny thing is that he did in fact edit war even after the warning , Bananakingler (talk) 15:32, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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7) Talk:Tangier-Tétouan-Al Hoceima: Getting into semantics, using a disambiguation page (Language dominance) as a source, making WP:EXTRAORDINARY claims, eventually restoring their desired addition after months of bludgeoning.
: well yeah I was working with definitions? How the heck is that „semantics“. How else are you supposed to work with indeterminate terms? So yeah I saw an article on Wikipedia with a definition. I saw it as an easy obtainable definition. Skitash did not like it also did not provide any counter definition and instead ridiculed me and ignored the argument completely, starting a side discussion about First Nations. If any of the arbcoms has time read the whole discussion it’s a feaver dream Bananakingler (talk) 17:33, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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8) The concept of Tamazgha is described by a myriad of RS (including Berberist journals) as a "fictitious" or "imaginary" entity, as it does not physically exist as a concrete entity.
: even if that’s true, that is not the sources skitash used. He used Arab nationalist think tank. and even then it’s sketchy the least to put in the lead sentence. It would be hilarious if it wouldn’t be so sad that skitash edit warred for that addition. I did too and I’m sorry to the community for it. I learned a lot about Wikipedia in those last weeks.Bananakingler (talk) 17:52, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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9) Any occasional overlap in 3O requests and talk page comments is not the result of coordination. Me and others share many of the same articles on our watchlists and are active during similar time zones in a relatively small and niche topic area. As a result, we naturally notice the same ongoing disputes and end up commenting on the same issues independently. I would intervene in matters I see on my watchlist regardless of who else had already addressed them
: So skitash wants to tell us that it is perfectly normal for the gang accept 3O of people who discuss with one those three, make one comment in favor of the other gang member and never to respond again. He called the Maghreb a niche topic area
Maybe it is cause skitash and his gang gets every newbie banned either by abusing the 3RR rule by edit warring with two accounts or by accusing people of socking without proper reason (like he did for me for example) Bananakingler (talk) 19:40, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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10) I had reason to suspect a mobile editor (who hasn't edited since) with an interest in northern Moroccan Berber locations of sockpuppetry. The SPI was closed due to no overlap, which has arguably been established now that the two have added the same content to Afri.
: His „Reason“ was that that user was created on a day I took a break after I got bombarded with threats on my talk page by skitash and his gang, that user edited some pages I never edited. Purely bad faith and hope to convince a mod to ban two innocent users. The „evidence“ is hilarious, the fact that skitash still insists on looking for connections is concerning. Bananakingler (talk) 19:50, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
11) A large part of these unsourced translations were added by 85.148.129.62, a disruptive sock of the LTA known as Lala migos.
That user did like 10 edits and none of those edits were related to tifinagh. Not gonna lie, it feels like skitash got an innocent user blocked by convincing a good faith mod. Independently skitash says „a large portion of those edits“. So he did not just reverted the edits he believed to be done by a sock, but also some more without explaining his behavior here.
I honestly wonder how many editors got wrongfully banned because of skitash aspersions. Bananakingler (talk) 20:11, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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Analysis of Western Sahara NPOV map dispute
Concerns about M.Bitton imposing a POV regarding maps of Western Sahara mentioned throughout the evidence page (1, 2, 3, 4, 5), in hand with other concerns of pro–Western Sahara bias (6, 7, 8, 9). In particular, Alaexis notes, "M.Bitton was engaged in POV pushing while trying to present their POV re Western Sahara as the NPOV"
. I hope to participate further in this workshop phase to analyze M.Bitton and Skitash's misconduct, but on this particular matter, I believe M.Bitton is correct that the inclusion of Western Sahara is the NPOV (he linked to this noticeboard discussion).
To provide additional context, Western Sahara is a non-self-governing territory that is "separate and distinct"[1] from Morocco under international law—this has been the prevailing consensus among the international community and scholars for decades. In 2020, the US became the first state to recognize Morocco's annexation of Western Sahara, a view that's been endorsed by less than a dozen states since. In using the recent CIA map without noting this, it is likely pushing a minority view that egregiously erases an entire country. I am not convinced by asilvering bringing up that "all maps are non-neutral"
as Wikipedia editors can/should nonetheless strive to use maps that best comply with the NPOV policy. If the CIA began marking Greenland or Venezuela as US territories, I have a very hard time believing we would resort to the same "all maps are non-neutral"
argument and calling it a day.
To summarize my point: M.Bitton was not incorrect in assessing that maps that remove Western Sahara are likely a violation of NPOV. This alone should not necessarily indicate an anti-Moroccan/pro–Western Sahara bias, but it could be relevant when assessing bias as a whole. I'd not justify the behavior/incivility in these discussions/edit wars as well. Of note is M.Bitton and Skitash's use of outdated sources and deliberate exclusion of a source's full context to inflate the number of states recognizing Western Saharan statehood (10, 11) and demonstrated ownership of Western Saharan articles (12). Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:17, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
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Skitash's defence of reverting editors till they hit 3RR misses the point
11) From Skitash's evidence: I do not believe we have "gamed the system" by reverting editors until they hit 3RR. From the examples provided by Samuselshraga, these editors were engaging in highly disruptive behavior.
This misses the point entirely.
Of course their opponents in the edit wars from my evidence here and here were engaged in disruptive behaviour - they were edit warring! Skitash has put forward no evidence that their own reverts (or R3YBOl's/M.Bitton's identical ones) were edit warring any less - indeed the only reasonable defence would be that they were exempt from the edit warring policy under WP:3RRNO, and that they explained the exemption at the time under that policy: If you are claiming an exemption, explain it clearly in an edit summary or on the talk page. When in doubt, do not revert.
I haven't seen any indication that that's the case across the many edit wars that have been shown in multiple evidence submissions.
Skitash's defence that their opponents in the edit wars had engaged in such practices as edit warring against multiple editors
shows, I think, a total lack of self-awareness as to how their behaviour has been disruptive. Samuelshraga (talk) 09:49, 12 April 2026 (UTC)
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Timing of M.Bitton's evidence
M.Bitton submitted their evidence two minutes before the end of the evidence phase . This submission contained multiple assertions about other editors, including case parties. Submitting so late had the effect of preventing other editors from providing rebuttals in their own evidence sections (the submission also has yet to be given a word count.) - HetmanTheResearcher (talk) 18:21, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
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- There was a word count in M.Bitton's evidence. They removed it. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 18:58, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
- Oh wow, that's a move. Samuelshraga (talk) 07:23, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- That would explain why they never followed my advice to ask for an extension. --Super Goku V (talk) 18:40, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- Most of M.Bitton's "evidence" does not actually address the allegations against him either. Some examples: (a) In his reply to me and Kowal2701, M.Bitton repeats
84 [states recognizing the SADR] is sourced
, while sidestepping the actual issue of stonewalling and the fact that his !vote in favor of 84 hadlittle to no rationale
; (b) for Robert McClenon's evidence of M.Bitton declining to resolve disputes, he repliesI don't remember the context for those DRNs
— yet the DRNs are conveniently linked, the context is easily accessible... ; and (c) M.Bitton takes the opportunity to reply to ElijahUHC by alleging that they have engaged in misconduct, though this seemingly wouldn't absolve M.Bitton (and Skitash) of alleged misconduct anyways. - There are plenty more examples when reading M.Bitton's submission. M.Bitton has no obligation to reply to everyone, but his assertions should be read with context, and the fact that this evidence was timed to be submitted at the very last second should be taken in mind. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 14:48, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- There was a word count in M.Bitton's evidence. They removed it. SuperPianoMan9167 (talk) 18:58, 13 April 2026 (UTC)
Robert McClenon Analysis of evidence
Super Goku V submission
Super Goku V states that LEvalyn filed a request at DRN on 27 June 2024, and that M.Bitton declined to participate, by erasing the notice of the DRN filing. This erasure illustrated a pattern by M.Bitton of not taking part in dispute resolution.
Super Goku V also mentions a report to WP:ANI that I made on 30 June 2024. That report also showed that M.Bitton was edit-warring with LEvalyn over an RFC. Edit-warring is disruptive.
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General discussion
The missing evidence: Why was nothing done
I think there was an overwhelming consensus at the Evidence section, and seemingly emerging in the workshop here, that there were serious conduct issues brought up about M.Bitton and Skitash that needed to be addressed. Unfortunately the evidence (mine included) doesn't really raise or address the question of why the community failed to solve these problems earlier.
Much of the evidence was raised already by several editors at the ANI filing that precipitated this case. It may be too late to have lessons learned be part of the decision, but I'm curious if anyone has insight on what could or should have gone differently here? Samuelshraga (talk) 20:17, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- I believe that ANI doesn't deal well when the filer of a report isn't the most sympathetic victim of disruption (i.e. has also engaged in disruption).
- When these ANI reports have been filed, the filers are also focusing largely on the content. ANI does not like dealing with content disputes, often punting them right back to the talk page of the article. This means that ANI typically fails to curtail disruption when it consists of CPUSH (exceptions are when more experienced editors specifically highlight POV-pushing). Katzrockso (talk) 21:44, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- That thread did get lengthy, which I do need to take at least some fault for. That might have contributed to why that thread was archived without action. --Super Goku V (talk) 22:22, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
- My 2c, I occasionally saw that an ANI filing by the Berber-interested editors might have had behavioral merit, and I think others (such as asilvering) felt the same. I think it can also be a function of the social capital and familiarity of the target of the filing, versus the fact that filers may not understand the rules and norms. Someone who makes a lot of edits dutifully enforcing the rules and norms, hiding behind a bureaucratic smokescreen when it comes to controversial actions that passers-by are unlikely to deeply scrutinize, versus a complainant who may superficially or actually appear to be doing POV pushing and RGW of their own. Combined with wikifriends coming to the defense or dismissing the filing, sometimes along what could appear to be ideological lines, or at least, perception to the filer of closing ranks of wikicomrades and wikicompatriots. Whether or not it provably is coordinated isn't relevant nor am I suggesting that I think/know that any of it is, but there is a tendency for regulars to support regulars and admins may not delve deeper into any actual behavioral question if it boils down to content. Andre🚐 22:38, 14 April 2026 (UTC)
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