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The result was delete.--Kubigula (talk) 19:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Snaps (game) (3rd nomination)
Non notable game. A google search again shows that the majority of hits have nothing to do with this game . There are no sources listed, and nothing referenced to verify the claims of this article. This 'game's article needs to have multiple, reliable, independent, non-biased, third-party sources cited, which it doesn't and I was not able to find. Furthermore, this is basicly a re-worded version of the previously deleted page but Wikipedia is STILL not a how-to guide. Notability standards usually require citing more than one major news source. I looked at a few of the Wiki guidelines and we must note that Wikipedia is not a Publisher of Original Thought - Specifically - Original inventions: If you invent the word frindle or a new type of dance move (or punching game), it is not article material until a secondary source reports on it. You can review the previous nomination here - Brian(view my history)/(How am I doing?) 06:33, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Request Could you please link the previous nomination discussions? Turlo Lomon 06:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. I can see how it got buried in my posting. Here you go for the First Nomiation and the Second Nomiation --Brian(view my history)/(How am I doing?) 07:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete If you removed the unsourced statements at the bottom, the game guide in the middle, you then have the remains of an article that can only found on the internet by looking at Wikipedia mirrors. I would like to see some sources. If some reliable, 3rd party sources are found, I would be more then happy to change my stand. Turlo Lomon 07:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- It's not like game rules etc. have no place on Wikipedia, but this game is unsourced and apparently non-notable. Delete. - Mike Rosoft 09:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Not sourced, apparently non notable, and previously deleted in AFD. Kukini hablame aqui 14:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep: I think it is somewhat notable; remember, Google hits does not determine notability. I have heard of this game more than once. As far as content goes, I find that all the content can be found on one or more of these sites: http://www.eventwise.co.uk/asp/game_166.asp http://www.eventwise.co.uk/asp/Game_299.asp http://articles.syl.com/snapsisthegame.html http://www.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/~sillke/PUZZLES/snaps http://www.partyplan.co.uk/asp/game_166.asp?CategoryId=8 . Granted, these do not meet the "verifiable sources" criterion, and I do not have any better ones. The place to find a source would be in a book on party games, of which I have none. Unless sources can be found, I will not argue strongly to keep the article.
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 06:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
- Jay, thanks for the links but as you have said, they don't meet the verifiable sources criterion. These would be good as filler links but we still would need to have a few book citations or a few TV shows or newspaper/magazine articles that were about this game as you pointed out. --Brian(view my history)/(How am I doing?) 04:29, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
no don't delete, it was useful —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.75.143.37 (talk) 01:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
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