Ef: A Fairy Tale of the Two
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- Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:20, 4 August 2025 (UTC)
Lots of uncited statements, including entire paragraphs. Z1720 (talk) 17:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- While as a 2008 GA it's possible this could use some work, this claim does not appear to be true? I'm not seeing any unreferenced paragraphs here, barring the Gameplay / Plot section which is implicitly sourced to the game itself (and there are some references thrown in anyway). SnowFire (talk) 18:21, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Per MOS:VGGAMEPLAY, "gameplay details must be appropriately verifiable to reliable sources." The last paragraph of the "Music" section is also entirely uncited. It is correct that the Plot section does not need citations, but I took another look and noticed its length: MOS:VGPLOT says that, in general, video game plots should be less than 700 words, or if episodic, 300 words per episode. This article's plot is over 1,700 words so it might need to be trimmed and/or have the information about the characters in their own section. Z1720 (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- In practice, since gameplay sections accept primary sources (if grudgingly) and a lot of the secondary sources are going to be in Japanese, this is just about the most acceptable kind of Gameplay section to have be primary sourced. I don't know the game but I suspect a lot of it could be handled with someone who does know it just making explicit citations to the game. It's not ideal and would be a problem on well-covered games, but the expectations are a bit different for non-English obscura.
- Your other points are fine, but I think they should have been in the nomination statement. As I noted, it wouldn't be shocking if this article needs some cleanup, and I agree the plot section seems a tad over long. SnowFire (talk) 18:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @SnowFire: Per MOS:VGGAMEPLAY, "gameplay details must be appropriately verifiable to reliable sources." The last paragraph of the "Music" section is also entirely uncited. It is correct that the Plot section does not need citations, but I took another look and noticed its length: MOS:VGPLOT says that, in general, video game plots should be less than 700 words, or if episodic, 300 words per episode. This article's plot is over 1,700 words so it might need to be trimmed and/or have the information about the characters in their own section. Z1720 (talk) 18:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: If action is not taken soon, I agree. I see an entire paragraph outside of plot summaries uncited. This paragraph starts with "The opening theme of Ef: A Tale of Melodies is the English version". The sentence "The PlayStation 2 version released by Comfort will include an image song CD in the game disc, which will contain a song called 'Echt Forgather' by Hitomi Harada" is also uncited. Ideally, paragraphs outside plot summaries and summaries of cited material need to be cited. Z. Patterson (talk) 21:12, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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