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10 March 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

Paradoxodarap and Jigijigitaraka is very obvious from the Interaction Timeline and from Sandhya Raju. On 22 February 2021, Jigijigitaraka moved User:Paradoxodarap/sandbox to the draft space but there is no way someone could have come across a draft in an editor's user page. Blatent WP:UPE can be seen at Draft:Ed Cohen (author)/Ed Cohen (author), SprintRay Inc and Hasya Movies.

  • SprintRay Inc was created by Paradoxodarap and reviewed on 19 January 2025. Shortly after that, User:MCJtalent made this and this

From the above, we can see that Smaran, Vivek Sagar, Jagadeesh Prathap Bandari, Anvesh Michael, Avanti Cinema and Rohit–Sasi are all clients of MC Joint (https://mcjoint.in/), per their disclosure here. All of these articles were edited by Paradoxodarap as well.

  • Paradoxodarap's connection with BluntIsBlunt is Pawon Ramesh and Jagadeesh Prathap Bandari, both of which were initially created by BluntIsBlunt, as indicated on their user talk. Pawon Ramesh is also a client of MC Joint.
  • All images uploaded by Paradoxodarap are high resolution, which cannot be obtained without a relationship with the subjects or their PR teams.
  • On 16:57, 5 January 2025, Paradoxodarap uploaded c:File:Sandeep Raj.jpg which was then added by User:Taffystone to Sandeep Raj at 17:25, 5 January 2025, just 28 minutes after the upload. When asked about one of their uploads they pointed to this website which mentioned that the image was released under CC BY 4.0. Conveniently that website is now down.

Comments by other users

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Hello, I would like to address the allegations raised in this SPI and clarify my position. 1. Sockpuppetry: I am not connected to User:BluntIsBlunt or any of the other accounts listed in this SPI. Any similarities in editing patterns are coincidental and do not indicate sockpuppetry. 2. Editing Patterns: - Draft Moves and Article Creations: My edits, including moving drafts and creating articles, were made in good faith based on publicly available information and Wikipedia’s notability guidelines. For example, the articles related to MC Joint clients were created because they meet Wikipedia’s standards for notability. - Image Uploads: The high-resolution images I had uploaded were sourced from publicly available materials(now defunct www.thecultsbay.com) released under Creative Commons(4.0) licenses. I have no personal or professional relationship with the subjects. 3. Conflict of Interest (COI): I am not affiliated with MC Joint Talent Agency or its clients. My edits were made as a neutral contributor, and I have always strived to comply with Wikipedia’s COI guidelines. 4. Misinterpreted Note: The note on the talk page was misinterpreted as an acknowledgment of sockpuppetry. In reality, it was a request for help from a fellow editor to address the SPI allegations. I did not admit to any wrongdoing, and I stand by my innocence in this matter.

I welcome a CheckUser investigation to confirm that my account is not connected to BluntIsBlunt or any listed in this SPI. I have nothing to hide.

I am committed to Wikipedia’s policies and guidelines, and If I made any mistakes I am open to work with the community and improve my contributions. I hope this clarifies my part in this. Thank you for your understanding. bɑʁɑqoxodaraP (talk) 03:47, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

What do you mean by "but my account and a few other friends' accounts have been targetted"? Who are your friends? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 04:36, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
  • information Administrator note Jeraxmoira, few administrative/drive-by notes, I've blocked MCJtalent due to the account name being in violation of our user-name policy. Also, Crazyflower007's account has not been registered on enwiki and as a result cannot be checked by a CU (additionally you cannot ask a CU to connect a account to a IP). In a similar vein, ... Paradoxodarap uploaded c:File:Sandeep Raj.jpg which was then ... they pointed to this website which mentioned that the image was released under CC BY 4.0. Conveniently that website is now down., this peice of information was verified by Krd over on commons, and I am inclined to believe them on this (one of our most well-respected VRT agents).
That being said, while I find the evidence tying back to BIB to be weak, there is a strong string of coincidences between TukTuki9005 and MCJtalent as one group and Paradoxodarap, Jigijigitaraka and Taffystone as another group which points to potential WP:MEAT collaboration atleast. I also find the evidence linking HenryCavillu and Paradoxodarap a bit weak (but it is upto a CU to decide that). Sohom (talk) 05:21, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Krd only verified the license mentioned on that website, they would not have been able to check whether the image was actually owned by TheCultsBay.com. In this digital age, anyone can create a website, upload an image and release it under CC 4.0. But that does not mean the website owns the image or has the right to release it freely. This entire case is of WP:MEAT and we already have sufficient disclosure here, here(Image 5, 6 and 7), here and here, which provides enough evidence of UPE and meatpuppetry.
All the above articles are WP:OBSART, except for the article on Story Discussion, which might have got viewers during its release, but when you see the timeline, it is evident that Paradoxodarap revived the Story Discussion article on 10 December 2023 and this post on 16 Novemeber 2023 is sufficient evidence that they work for MCJTalent.
To summarize, all of the above accounts work for MCJ and are not two separate groups. The only confirmation we need is whether they all belong to BluntIsBlunt or ArthurCurry70. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 06:11, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Krd only verified the license mentioned on that website, ..., You do realize that you are not the first person to figure this out. Commons agents regularly deal with license laundering. I agree with what you say here, however, it is unlikely that this has not been checked.
W.r.t Crazyflower007 - I'm stating a limitation of the CU toolset, if you want to have the Crazyflower007 account checked, the place to do that is on commons or metawiki not here. No amount of evidence will change that.
Regarding the rest, I'm am inclined to believe/defer to your version of events on reviewing some of the insta-posts, though I'm uneasy with the fact that UPE marketing material is being used as a basis to make the claims since in my experience they tend to boast of abilities above and beyond what they are capable of and thus often implicate well-meaning editors. Sohom (talk) 07:08, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
Certainly not in this case and these are not well-meaning editors. A check on these accounts will probably not even connect them, apart from being in the same region/location. And CU isn’t needed to block the above accounts rather, it can be used to check for sleepers. This UPE farm just isn’t good enough, unlike other farms, which are often very difficult to prove. The fact that they didn’t hide their tracks and used their creations as examples on their social media only proves that this is probably their first or second endeavor in UPE.
Crazyflower007: I never asked for CU to connect the account to an IP. It is merely added as evidence. If you check the time when Crazyflower007 uploaded the photo and the time when it was added to the article, it proves LOUTSOCKing, which does not require any CU.
I'll drop a ping to The Wordsmith and MER-C, who I believe are familiar with this type of behavior. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 08:21, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  •  Clerk assistance requested: - What a horrible mess. Paradoxodarap is Likely on the technical evidence to MCJtalent, MAKTUBishi, and Avatar-e-husn, and combined with the behavioral evidence they are the same person or working together, and engaged in UPE/Promotional editing. Technical evidence is Inconclusive on the others except for {{np, but based on the behavior I am certain they are from the same agency at the very least. I am blocking the lot, and these blocks should be understood as both for sockpuppetry and UPE.
    It's unfortunate, in some ways - at least a few of their subjects are genuinely notable people who would likely have an encyclopedic article now, but who will likely turn into redlinks or stubs because of this meddling.
    Taffystone is, interestingly, Confirmed to Renamed user f887cdb358d0c13d3f497db6816d9432, and thence to MySlack1222, BubbleWombleBee12, and Saishna96: the requested vanishing is rendered void by their sockpuppetry. Clerks, could we add a note there, please? I also am unsure if any paperwork is needed re: the vanished account. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:28, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
  • Noting also that Crazyflower007 does not exist on en.wiki, and therefore was not checked or blocked. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:29, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
  • On hold - I've emailed the Global Renamers to request an un-vanishing. Putting case on hold until they respond, but otherwise everything else looks to be completed. The WordsmithTalk to me 22:30, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
    @The Wordsmith Did that ever happen? Doesn't look like it. I asked a relevant renamer today directly to sort a separate case, so you can maybe try that if no one has gotten back to you (for reference, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/RAO WAJEEH UR RAHMAN). I'd personally only spend the time on it if it's necessary to name the master // oldest account. Izno (talk) 22:14, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
    Thanks for the reminder here, I did speak to the renamers. The short version is that the new Vanishing process doesn't really allow for un-vanishing, so the best we can do is link the accounts by their userpage. I'll deal with the tags etc. as soon as I can. The WordsmithTalk to me 22:23, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

23 March 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

As I'm looking through G5'ed articles for the most recent round of sockpuppets, I found the listed users who have significant overlap. See the editor interaction utility. Sorry to continue adding to this mess!

  • Loyolion created Razesh Danda, which Paradoxodarap later significantly contributed to. Loyolion also contributed to List of Telugu films of 2024 like Paradoxodarap and Taffystone.
  • Gow280789 has contributed 3/9 of their edits on Anvesh Michael, which Paradoxodarap created.
  • Naanioffl has overlap across multiple articles.
  • Jayanthkumar123, Sekhemty, and HimSur9 have higher edit counts, but there is a lot of overlap in article editing, including articles created by other socks. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 23:49, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

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Planned to add the same accounts as well but didn’t have the time yesterday. I’m not really sure about User:Gow280789, but the rest all seem to be connected. IMHO, they seem connected offline(in real life), but I don’t think they work for the same team. Jayanthkumar123, Sekhemty and HimSur9 do seem to be a group. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:22, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

I request you to stop making these illusional allegations against me. I neither part of a group nor connected to anybody. I am interesting in creating entertainment articles and others. Go through my contributions and comment. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:14, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Most of my contributions are related to Telugu film articles. If other editors also do edits for similar articles, does that make a overlap or me being part of a team? @Jeraxmoira @Significa liberdade. Jayanthkumar123 (talk) 06:22, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
If you are not involved, then I don’t think you have anything to worry about. You started editing the template space from your 14th edit, which I believe indicates prior experience. Considering that you were not previously involved in AfDs and have only 11 AfD votes since 2021, how you miraculously came to vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eashvar Karthic, repeating other editors, is a question of its own. Combining all this with the latest overlap with the other accounts was the cause of the suspicion for WP:MEAT. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • HimSur I'd put squarely in Red X Unrelated.
  • Jayanthkumar and Sekmehty are from the same region of the world (matching earlier users in general at the least) and on the same network, but always different user agents, and their IPv6/64 addresses are remarkably static and not overlapping. Their one overlap on an IPv4 network is at a wide range. There's a few instances in the data that would suggest at least connection, but a few others that tend away from the same person. They're on the same network as the Taffystone group but Taffystone particularly has a much greater variance to their addressing.
  • I think it's worth calling out Championdaku (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki · SI) in relation to Taffystone from the 10 March investigation. They follow each other around on the same IPs. Not sure why something wasn't considered for that by the checkuser then.
  • The other two named accounts in this listing are stale. Izno (talk) 16:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
  • @Izno: There was enough overlap on these IP addresses that without a smoking gun I didn't want to block on that alone. But I dug into the behavior with the other sockmaster, and I'm convinced, so I've blocked Championdaku.
    as to the rest, Loyolion and Gow280789 are stale and have a bare handful of edits. The behavioral connection with Loyolion is very obvious, so I'm indeffing there too. I'm quite certain Sekhemty and Jayanthkumar123 are separate: they have far longer track records, and the overlap can reasonably be explained as part of their normal activity. If there is evidence of UPE with those two a separate investigation is likely needed: I'm quite certain they are, at least, two different people, and also different from the persons behind the Paradoxodarap group. Vanamonde93 (talk) 17:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

29 March 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

Trying to recreate Shouryuv/Draft:Shouryuv, probably with the same content and sources. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:24, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

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For thoroughness: checkuser for the user who accepted the draft [a different person] came back clean 24 March 2025 (and earlier in December) according to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard § WP:3X unban request for User:TzarN64 (permalink) Acceptor's userpage used to say she is from the U.S., and her interests seem to be mostly Nintendo, so there seems to be no obvious overlap in behavioral patterns. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:23, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Added a second suspect that has also edited Arjun S/O Vyjayanthi/Draft:Arjun S/O Vyjayanthi. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 02:26, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello Admin,
Rotideypoc41352 has messaged me on my talk page, where i was exploring the things, i saw my name on one of his contributions so i came here.
I dont have any Conflict of Interest and I would like to explain how I came to edit the film article Arjun S/O Vyjayanthi.
  • March 16th, I have seen the film glimpse and came across an article on about the film. I searched for the film’s Wikipedia page to find some quick details, but it hadn't been created yet. Wanting to contribute, I decided to create an account on March 16 and start the page. Unfortunately, I couldn’t proceed due to being busy with real-life matters.
  • (6th April), I watched an Ugadi special interview of the film , where the lead cast members discussed more details about the movie. Since it was Sunday and I got some free time, I fixed to learn more about Wikipedia edits and page creations. As a Telugu person, I dont know the heroine, as she is hindi person Saiee Manjrekar, so I visited her Wikipedia page to learn more about her background. I have seen that the film Arjun S/O Vyjayanthi was not listed in her filmography section, so I decided to update it. I followed the format used by other editors and added the film credit to her filmography. I did the same for Sohail Khan.
  • When I checked Kalyan Ram's filmography, I saw that someone had already added the Arjun S/O Vyjayanthi credit, but it had a red-marked credit. Clicking on it, I found that a draft had already been made. It made me easy to updated the draft, as it was already created. so i have added a few references after watching this tutorial- . Though I encountered some confusion during this process, which you can see in my edit history, I later watched another tutorial , which helped me move the draft to mainspace. coming to talk page i took another talk film talk page as reference and copy pasted the code accordingly. Finally, I added the film's poster by following prompts from ChatGPT and other image file source code. I can say im software engineer i have knowledge on coding so it got me to understand every easily with youtube tutorials and all my edits are made by following the youtube tutorial videos and chatgpt prompts, which made me me to do with quick understading as a start.
  • I realize that I was following YouTube tutorials without fully understanding the Wikipedia guidelines and I promise to slow down and take the time to read and follow all the guidelines when editing Wikipedia.
Mynameisnobe (talk) 04:55, 8 April 2025 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • So I've looked at J4July. My conclusions: Their network overlaps with the Taffstone group, with characteristics and location most similar to Jayanthkumar123 from the 23 March case of the three accounts discussed relatively in that filing (J, S, T). Stamp with behavioral analysis and/or consider blocking on other grounds. Will look at the other momentarily. Izno (talk) 23:27, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
  • And my assessment of MNIN is that they're someone with something approximating a directish COI. Registered on the same network as some of the above, but the owner of their IP address tells an different story. Izno (talk) 23:45, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
  •  Clerk assistance requested: - The combination of behavior and technical evidence convinces me that these two are part of the Taffystone group, so I'm indeffing these: in addition to sockpuppetry there is some combination of COI/UPE going on. I'm personally unconvinced of the connection to Jayanthkumar123: unlike with the other accounts, I do not see a technical or behavior signature that convinces me this is more than fanboy editing of Telugu film. But I will not stand in the way of another CU who wishes to take action. Clerks: can we please merge this investigation into the right SPI for Taffystone (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Saishna96), including a note about the accounts from 10 March, and the one from above? Thanks in advance. Vanamonde93 (talk) 18:35, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
  • Done. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 04:27, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

22 June 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

Account Sumashaikh from this farm blocked on June 7, 2025. They had created the page Shashwat Singh. Account Msmimiin created on May 11th (four days after the block) with their second edit to the talk page of that article. They also uploaded this image claiming it as own work. Account appear to be at least MEAT but likely SOCK in my opinion. User has filed this ANI about my COI tagging and claim they are using multiple accounts. CNMall41 (talk) 21:25, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I am not associated with any account which has been used for any misuse/abuse for any wikipedia pages ever . SPI team can check and come to a closure. Many users do abuse so your suspect is circumstantial. I have no relation pr connection with the above mentioned accounts.
Thanks Msmimiin (talk) 19:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

@Izno:, I filed here as Sumashaikh userpage is tagged as BluntIsBlunt and links here. Did I read that wrong?--CNMall41 (talk) 22:28, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

@Izno: Got it. Let me know how to move it or what I need to do (if anything). --CNMall41 (talk) 22:58, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

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This claim is 100% misleading and not true . I am not from any farm, why this biased analysis? Prove that I have a connection with sumashaikh or bluntisblunt, I have not even seen these userids ever . Just because I have opened up a new account doesn't mean I have a connection with someone whom you guys have blocked Msmimiin (talk) 00:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Can I again request for an unbiased investigation and proof with evidence? You have power so you can just block new editors claiming they are sockpuppets but I am not them . I am requesting other admins to look into this matter and check my details..tiu guys have the power to even block me and shut me up but that will not change the truth . Msmimiin (talk) 00:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Hi I am msmimiin , I have no connection with bluntisblunt or sumashaikh or anyone , if anyone can prove I have a connection with the above mentioned accounts and as @cnmall41 mentioned in his comment that we are from same farm , t's not true . What you are suspecting is not true , creating an account is not a crime , when you blocked someone may be many guys have been blocked does that mean I have a connection with them ? How silly ! Next is what I will be blocked to point out the truths ? Msmimiin (talk) 23:56, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
    Yes I has this account'Lopamudra Das' which is inactive for 7 years because I forgot the id and password. Msmimiin is the only account I am using . Neither Lopamudra Das , not Msmimiin have been used for any abuse to any wikipedia pages. One can check the history of the inactive account of Lopamudra Das.
    However, I have no connection with Sumashaikh or Naanioffl.
    Thanks Msmimiin (talk) 19:54, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    please note since last 7 years the account 'Lopamudra Das' is inactive, yes that was my account but I forgot the id and password so not able to log in for 7 years. I am only using 'msmimiin' for only editing contribution. Lopamudra Das is inactive and not being used for any editing since 7 years , one can check the history of that page . Msmimiin (talk) 19:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    So you admit it is your account ? Sohom (talk) 20:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    Yes I do . But I forgot about this account completely , since I have already mentioned I forgot the id and password and didn't able to speculate it will create an issue later on , as I have already admitted I am a new editor , who is not that knowledgeable. The id is inactive for 7 years , SPI team can check that and it has not been used for any editing contribution for 7 years may be , may be more. Don't remember. Msmimiin is the only active account. But it also proves the claim is untrue that I have any relation with the other mentioned sockpuppet accounts named as - sumashaikh ,blunt is blunt so on so forth . Msmimiin (talk) 20:31, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    Again clarifying - Lopamudra Das was my account, I have mentioned already . It is inactive for 7 years as I forgot my id and password, msmiin is the only account I have the access. No other account I am associated with. Please get it right .
    Thanks Msmimiin (talk) 20:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    @Msmimiin, can you comment on @Rosguill's comment below. For context, based on the technical logs, it seems like you logged into the Lopamudra account as late as June 11, which would indicate that you haven't lost access to the account. Sohom (talk) 21:00, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    exactly on June 11 I opened this account named as Msmimiin since I was unable to logged in the Lopmudra Das account as it was saying wrong password . I tried to retrieve the account but couldn't..hope this explains my situation. Is there any evidence on June 11 I edited from Lopamudra Das account or did any editing ? The answer will be a big NO because I didn't. I genuinely lost the access that's the reason I had to open another account exactly on the same date, anyone can go and check the account activities of msmiin and Lopamudra Das . No abuse has been done from any of the account neither both of the accounts are in use for multiple editing. I reat my case here . SIP team can do their research and come to a conclusion. Msmimiin (talk) 22:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    I rest** my case here . The above mentioned details kindly check ,hope you guys will understand the point . If I would have been used both accounts simultaneously, I believe that would be sockpuppeting, which in my case is not happening at all, neither I have any intention to do so. Lopamudra Das is inactive and no one is using it for any editing, on June 11 yes I tried to log in but didn't able to hence opened a new account as msmiin and that is only active and in use. Msmimiin (talk) 23:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Sorry, but at this point I can no longer WP:AGF, especially when taken to a noticeboard by the user. User stated here they "A single account (I earlier edited from IP 103.115.24.85 just to fix a typo)." This is a lie as they have edited from another account but only admitted it when called out on it. Here they say (in reference to multiple accounts) that they "have only one and this is the account." Again, not true. User was demanding that we "prove" they have a connection to other accounts. There is now proof. They are now backpeddling.--CNMall41 (talk) 21:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
The IP and Msmimiin has the same IP . It's not a lie . I have access only one account that is msmiin , there's no evidence that I used multiple accounts to edit in fact I didn't use 'Lopamudra Das' account for 7 years. Stop using words like 'lie' etc ,it's derogatory and looks like personal attack. Let yeh SIP team come to a conclusion. They are free to do their investigation and come to a conclusion. I will accept it as I have shared all the details. Msmimiin (talk) 22:46, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
  • behavioral match ? Really? Previously I was accused to have association with bluntisblunt and sumashaikh, it was never questioned whether I had any previous account 7-8 years back named as Lopamudra Das or whether I forgot my previous account or not, if asked I would have happily accepted it by then , just like I am accepting it now that YES 'Lopmaudra Das' was my account, I can't write it is my account as I don't have the access of the account as I already mentioned I forgot the id password, and it is evident that it is inactive for several years , even I myself checked that account by simply went to its user page and checked that the account has not been used or active for 7 years, but I have been accused as a sockpuppet for using multiple accounts which is not true. I am not using multiple accounts and I have no intention to deceive or abuse Wikipedia policies. If I would have been used both accounts simultaneously, I believe that would be sockpuppeting, which in my case is not happening at all, neither I have any intention to do so. Requesting SIP team to do their research and come to a conclusion soon . Will be patiently wait for their neutral verdict. Msmimiin (talk) 22:39, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
"It was never questioned whether I had any previous account 7-8 years back" - It was also never questioned if you edited while logged out yet you decided to disclose that prior to any connection being made with your account. --CNMall41 (talk) 23:34, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Now there's a shift of thought, just few hours ago you were connecting me with sumashaikh, bluntisblunt and so on so forth , connect me with 4-5 other accounts please and proved it I own those accounts, I will be happy if SIP team gets any solid evidence of sockpuppeting and block me . Msmimiin (talk) 23:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)


  • I was the one who initially suggested blocking my ID Msmimiin, as I noticed the admins were pursuing a sockpuppeting suspicion despite no improper activity from my end. I provided a detailed justification, yet the issue of sockpuppetry suddenly seems to have taken a backseat. Now the focus has shifted to how I remembered my old ID, Lopamudra Das.
To clarify: I retrieved access to the old account. If my ID can be blocked instantly, why is it so unbelievable that I might also suddenly retrieve the password? Where is the logic in questioning that?Even after regaining access, when I attempted to log in, I was surprised to find that both accounts had already been blocked. It’s astonishing to see that people are now fixated on my “sudden” recollection of an old ID, rather than questioning the equally sudden and unjustified block of someone who has shown no proven misuse or evidence of sockpuppeting.I’m genuinely taken aback by the way assumptions are being made and how the discussion is being diverted, while basic fairness is being overlooked. 2405:201:49:A814:9C5A:CD7D:8227:B63B (talk) 13:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Misusing an IP address and a secondary account after lying about your access to one is not going to help your case. You have already been told how to appeal a block. That is not here. SPI cases are separate from blocks, and this case seems fairly clean cut for the most part. — Trailblazer101🔥 (discuss · contribs) 16:09, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • A recheck of Paradoxodarap finds a couple that are likely to each other. Looks like that behavior matches so I'll block those as BIB. And a little bit more digging for BIB finds these two confirmed to each other and Jigijigitaraka, previously blocked as a BIB sock.
  • I guess this specific investigation was intended to go with Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Naanioffl where Sumashaikh is? Msmimiin has a confirmed connection at Lopamudra Das (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki · SI) No obvious connection to either BIB or Naanioffl. Izno (talk) 22:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
    Sumashaikh appears to have a tag for Naanioffl presently. You might have just missed the SPI split. Izno (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
  • So, looking into this, there's a few pieces that aren't adding up. Msmimiin has now conceded that Lopamudra Das is their account, but yesterday they were saying that they had no other accounts. They claim that they lost the password years ago, but the technical confirmation would presumably require recent activity, and I see that global logs for Lopamudra Das show that they were linked to an account on bn.wiki on June 11 of this year--Izno, as someone more experienced with SPI could you comment on whether the technical evidence confirms recent activity from LD? I also note that in this edit, confirmed sock CultsBay349 states that they were previously active 2016-2018...which matches LD's editing history. Beyond that, I find a behavioral match to Naanioffl plausible but have yet to identify smoking gun evidence that links the two. signed, Rosguill talk 20:53, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    @Rosguill, whether the technical evidence confirms recent activity from LD? Just the logins/logouts that show up. Izno (talk) 20:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    Izno, would the failed login attempt that Msmimiin describes have created the technical trail you saw? signed, Rosguill talk 23:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    More generally, Msmimiin, the more you post here, and the more you repeat yourself, the less you help your case. Please don't comment further unless someone asks you a direct question. signed, Rosguill talk 23:19, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    I have been tagged and asked and that's why replied . Please check. I have no intention to annoy anyone here but what I read in the Wikipedia policy when I am being suspected as a sockpuppet and continuously being questioned,I can defend myself with details what I am doing already. Rest, I am ready accept the verdict by SIP team. Msmimiin (talk) 23:26, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    They have full access to that account at present. Izno (talk) 23:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    I don't have any access to that account. Feel free to block that account if that solves the problem. Msmimiin is the only account I am using . Msmimiin (talk) 23:35, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    Ok, with that clarification I'm comfortable blocking. signed, Rosguill talk 23:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    Now, while I think the pattern of sockpuppetry, UPE, and general deceit is clear, we haven't quite figured out what is going on between this case and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Naanioffl. In terms of both topics and diction, they more resemble Naanioffl, but there's also the really weird circumstantial evidence of overlap with CultsBay349, linked to BIB. signed, Rosguill talk 23:43, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
    The plot also thickens at User_talk:Lopamudra_Das, who apparently just remembered their password. signed, Rosguill talk 00:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
    Who shares, uh, a particularly funny tic with our friend Msmimiin. -- asilvering (talk) 00:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
    fwiw @Rosguill, I agree, the diction is distinctive and does not match to CultsBay349. I suppose CultsBay could plausibly attempt to write more like Msnimiin/Lopamudra, but to what intended end, I'm not sure. Either way I think we're solidly at WP:CIR, all socking concerns aside. -- asilvering (talk) 00:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Msmimiin, if you'd like to appeal this, please pick one of your two accounts and request an unblock there, rather than adding more discussion here. -- asilvering (talk) 03:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
  • I'm going to close this without tags. Don't think this is master based on the digging finding others. Izno (talk) 04:17, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

02 July 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

Nagarani Bethi has created Sandeep Raj. Maybe not the same person, but possibly the same team trying to get their articles back online. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Asilvering, sadly there is nothing. The suspicion is only based on the fact that Sandeep Raj is obscure and no one would be repeatedly creating an article about him apart from the above team. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 17:22, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
This definitely smells UPE to me as well, the question who and why. Sohom (talk) 04:28, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

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Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

This case is being reviewed by asilvering as part of the clerk training process. Please allow them to process the entire case without interference, and pose any questions or concerns either on their talk page or on this page if more appropriate.

  • Clerk declined - if CU would give us something here, Izno would have turned them up in the previous check. Jeraxmoira, do you spot any other behavioural similarities? -- asilvering (talk) 15:52, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
@Vanamonde93, you've done behavioural investigations on this group before, does anything stand out to you about this account? Looks to me that the related edits are explainable by a shared interest in Telugu film but I don't have any solid context for how obscure these topics are. -- asilvering (talk) 18:45, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
@Asilvering: The behavior is suspicious but not conclusive: there's more overlap than you'd expect in article-space, but the deleted text is different, and there's some tics that make me certain it's not the same individual. Whether it's the same UPE farm is harder to answer. The most likely explanation in my view is an independent set of editors working to promote subjects in the area of Telugu film - where one UPE farm exists, there's room for others. I would give this one the usual warnings about COI/PAID and then give them more rope. Vanamonde93 (talk) 21:03, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
  • I think it may be easier to deal with disruption pertaining to this kind of farm by assessing it for notability (I think the topic is notable) and seeing if the writing is particularly promotional (it isn't) and whether prior versions look the same (they don't). WP:G4 gets stuff cleared out of the mainspace at the end of the WP:AFD day about as well as WP:G5 (and where necessary, page protected as a redirect since there is a clearly valid other target). It's also hard for me to countenance the description of "director of an award-winning film" as particularly undeserving of an article, but that's a discussion AFD could sort instead if they wanted and which would settle the topic for good in another way. Izno (talk) 04:30, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
    Ignoring that line, Chinthamu Narender is prettyyyyy promotional, and much of the other editing has that "I write articles for a living" sign to it. I agree with Vanamonde's "let them prove themself unworthy" as such, but a UPE suspicion block could be in the cards also. Izno (talk) 04:37, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
  • I've given the COI warning notice. We'll see where we get from there. Closing this for now. asilvering (talk) 17:06, 9 July 2025 (UTC)

03 November 2025

Suspected sockpuppets

P.sharman.joshi.hyd created 23 September. First edits were creation of Draft:Cherry (Producer) and Draft:Chiranjeevi Pedamallu, filmmakers best known for their work with Ritesh Rana. 14 October created an unrelated film article. Today, recreated Ritesh Rana, then linked that from all the usual articles. All rather fluent work for the first 44 edits of a new editor. Wikishovel (talk) 13:53, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

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  • Blocked and tagged Sohom (talk) 15:53, 3 November 2025 (UTC)
  • Closing. I looked at the old articles and the editor interactions, and I agree that the behavior is sufficiently suspicious to imply sock or meatpuppetry. Sohom (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

11 May 2026

Suspected sockpuppets

This is regarding a SPI case filed on 10 March 2025 linked to BluntIsBlunt.

  • 12 March 2025, Paradoxodarap asked daresh talk page to help him. (Previously they both have good converasations regarding articles).
  • On 21 April 2025, User:DareshMohan went to user:Jeraxmoira talk page and asked about Coi & CSD G5 articles which were created by Paradoxodarap. but jerax told daresh "dont indirectly help him in escaping the mess he has created by recreating them back". Daresh changed the topic and mentioned "Film articles are better than biographical articles imo since they are not specifically attached to one person". but he later created Biography articles.
  • 19 May 2026, Daresh recreated Katha Venuka Katha which is previously created by Jigijigitaraka.
  • Later on 10 june 2025, daresh started recreating Harshavardhan Rameshwar's g5'ed article which is created by paradoxodarap.
  • On 10 September 2025, daresh recreated Kotha Poradu which is previously created by user:Jigijigitaraka. Note - paradoxodarap stated here that Jigijigitaraka is his offline friend.
  • 2 December 2025, daresh recreated draft of Rohit–Sasi, Jayanthkumar123 moved it to mainspace, which is also created by paradoxodarap. Previously user:Jayanthkumar123 is also included in BluntIsBlunt case.
  • Among all these, daresh is trying to get back the COI G5'ed articles created by paradoxodarap which were 6 already on live, which is not coincidence. They both might have off wiki relation. Additional daresh goes to some user talk pages and asks helps to edit/create the articles. ~2026-28424-05 (talk) 19:34, 11 May 2026 (UTC)
    On a few occasions, Daresh had cautioned COI users on their talk pages and even reported/discussed some of them with admins on admin talk pages and also he mentioned in his edit summary here that "he hates COI". However, now Daresh is knowingly recreating COI articles, even after @Jeraxmoira cautioned him not to. I think there may be a larger UPE effort going on to gradually bring those COI articles back one by one. ~2026-28424-05 (talk) 05:45, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
    Daresh was once suspected by @Timtrent in this SPI. I'm also Inviting @CNMall41, @Timtrent, @Jeraxmoira to contribute additional details if they have any. ~2026-28424-05 (talk) 17:22, 13 May 2026 (UTC)

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  • You have included a very experienced user in this SPI. Not sure I have anything to add as I would be surprised if they are a SOCK. I do have a question for DareshMohan about Ritesh Rana. Did anyone assist you with the creation or did you obtain this from a draft or elsewhere? Wondering if you created on your own from scratch. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:09, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
    @CNMall41 Getting 5 articles created by Paradoxodarap back online does not appear to be unintentional. There have been many SPI cases where Telugu film and biography articles were G5'ed, yet Daresh seems specifically interested only in restoring articles created by Paradoxodarap. To me, it smells UPE.
    • Harshavardhan Rameshwar Draft is created by DareshMohan, he asked Jayanthkumar123 to help in expand it. Jayanth moved it to mainspace. Daresh contributed 46.6% and Jayanth contributed 47.1%.
    • Kotha Poradu is created by DareshMohan, his contribution to the page is 99.5%.
    • Dance Ikon is created by DareshMohan, his contribution to the page is 99.1%.
    • Rohit–Sasi Draft is created by DareshMohan. same like Harshavardhan Rameshwar, he asked Jayanthkumar123 to help, then jayanth moved it to mainspace. Daresh contributed 56.4%, Jayanth contribution is 43.6%.
    • Ritesh Rana is created by DareshMohan, his contribution to the page is 98.9%.
    --Per above may be DareshMohan is using Jayanthkumar123 to get the pages back or they might be one team pretending to be on wiki friends by asking mutual help in talk pages to edit/create articles. ~2026-28424-05 (talk) 20:45, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
    It is not I that you need to convince. My question was specific for DareshMohan. Waiting a reply. --CNMall41 (talk) 20:49, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
    Just noting that DareshMohan isn't particularly likely to see the question, since they haven't been pinged in this conversation. It might be reasonable to ping them in this case (I'm not sure), but it's generally not recommended for regular users to do so:

    Please do not notify the suspected accounts. This tends to result in lengthy arguments on SPI pages, which will delay the resolution of the case. A clerk, admin, or checkuser can always ask the suspected accounts for their input if needed.
    — Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guide to filing cases § Important notes

    Cadddr (talk) 20:55, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
    Cadddr, there is no requirement that they are not pinged. This is requested but not required. OP can do so or I will as I think an experienced editor such as the accused understands they can defend themself without WALLOFTEXT. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:44, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
    Oh, sorry if it sounded like I was saying pinging wasn't allowed. I was mainly just trying to let you know that they haven't been pinged yet, since you said you were awaiting their reply. Cadddr (talk) 19:05, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
    @DareshMohan:, courtesy ping. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:50, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
    I haven't looked into the user behavior in detail yet, but it's not obvious to me that sockpuppeting would be the reason for these things. Note that Vanamonde93 made this comment in the original case: It's unfortunate, in some ways - at least a few of their subjects are genuinely notable people who would likely have an encyclopedic article now, but who will likely turn into redlinks or stubs because of this meddling. It's true that DareshMohan didn't follow Jeraxmoira's advice, but if these are "genuinely notable people", it doesn't seem obviously suspicious to me that DareshMohan would want to recreate the articles. To me, the fact that DareshMohan has communicated openly about wanting to recreate these articles makes it less likely that they have something to hide about it.
    I'm not saying it's not suspicious at all, though. I suppose it could be worth a CheckUser. Cadddr (talk) 21:11, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
    @Cadddr, Yes, DareshMohan has communicated openly about wanting to recreate these articles. But getting back 5 articles created only by Paradoxodarap looks suspicious and as CNMall mentioned, Daresh is a very experienced editor, so he knows how things and policies work. He may have taken all the necessary steps to recreate it without raising suspicion, such as openly discussing it on talk pages. ~2026-28424-05 (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
  • I was pinged. I have nothing to add. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 21:16, 13 May 2026 (UTC)
  1. I think the discussion is rather wholesome. When Paradoxodarap was blocked, it was clear that many of their articles that they created were notable on the basis of sources. Similar to Jeraxmoira, I recognized that they also created non notable articles.
  2. Paradoxodarap was weird in the sense that he didn't reveal his COI and acted like a non-COI editor engaging in conversation on talk pages, which in my eyes he was trying to act like a non-COI person.
  3. I didn't know Paradoxodarap was COI since he never revealed it before he was blocked and I had created Nirudyoga Natulu, which was nominated for deletion by Jeraxmoira due to sources. After understanding that the web series was not notable on the basis of source analysis, then I nominated Story Discussion for deletion.

@CNMall41: I recreated the Ritesh Rana article entirely on my own. All of the information is from the first source on the page mostly, the rest are from the other sources. As per any COI claims, I recreated Ritesh Rana because he directed 4 notable films and had good amount of sources. His most recent film was released recently and since he had another interview I decided that he finally had enough sources for an article.

As per asking Jayanthkumar123 for help the obvious answer is I don't understand Telugu and wouldn't want to make a mistake on a Telugu page and collaborating is the key of Wikipedia. That's even why I would add pages to User:Kailash29792/Missing_films as I didn't have the time to create an article in real life but had found sources for anyone who wants to create it. Also collaborating with another user makes creating articles easier. I honestly don't care who gets credit for the article creation as I have no COI.

The articles I recreated or helped be initiated:

  1. Rohit-Sasi, despite Paradoxodarap being a COI of the same company as these people, I only created it on the basis of reliable sources and this duo created three films that have articles
  2. Dance Ikon and Kotha Poradu had several reliable sources/reviews
  3. Harshavardhan Rameshwar was a black sheep in my opinion. How can a music composer with so many awards and films not have an article? Jayanthkumar123 added on after he won the National Award, which is a country level award.

DareshMohan (talk) 20:17, 18 May 2026 (UTC)

Thank you. My next question would be why you used different formatting for access dates. This is not common amongst experienced users. The access dates also vary from the creation date which indicates the creation was taken from an older version. --CNMall41 (talk) 22:56, 18 May 2026 (UTC)
The last source in the Ritesh Rana article is based on the last source from an older revision of his last film Jetlee . The fourth source on Ritesh Rana article (YYYY-MM-DD format) is based on the last source of the Ritesh Rana article. This is what Jayanthkumar123 churned put in his summary less edit output (see link in this paragraph), which varied from my manual approach. @CNMall41: And TBH, I didn't realize till now that Jayanth had changed the date format back to the Date Month Year (with the Month being in words) format.
The 2021 dates on Kotha Poradu (sources 1 and 5) are from the same sources on the Anvesh Michael article (sources 3 and 5). I agree I sometimes get lazy and reuse sources without updating the access date, going forward I will make sure to do so.
The random 6 May 2026 on the Ritesh Rana article is an inadvertent error on my part that I didn't notice. I even reused the Ritesh Rana source with the wrong access date on his Jetlee article after using the source on the Ritesh Rana article. DareshMohan (talk) 06:39, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
Thank you. This is where the page was when you created it (no other editors were involved at this point). While the Cinema Express source you say was based off of Jetlee, it was formatted differently than it was in that page and also formatted differently than how you did the rest. This is the version that Jayanthkumar123 did prior to your involvement there. Why would you go through archive history and pull the old formatting for a reference when it was already there. The formatting you used for Ritesh Rana is the same formatting that Jayanthkumar123 originally used prior to updating to the format you use. They had changed it BEFORE you decided to use if for Ritesh Rana so I am not tracking your explanation. --CNMall41 (talk) 15:47, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
The reason is this: I had checked Jayanthkumar123's contributions and noticed that in his first contribution to Jetlee on 9 May 2026, he had fixed the reference format (specifically ). Initially there were only 2 review sources when I last edited so I cared about Jayanthkumar123's immediate next revision to the page since he expanded the page a ton (his edit says +1,000 something). @CNMall41:
There is no surprise there. Due to common interests in South Indian cinema, I usually check the contributions of other editors such as Kailash29792, Jayanthkumar123, etc. I would check from most recent to less recent obviously but in this case I first checked the revision where Jayanthkumar123 immediately edited the page as opposed to copying the source from the latest revision of the page itself.
When they make more than one edit to a page, then it makes sense to check in reverse chronological order as each edit builds off of the previous edit. DareshMohan (talk) 17:45, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
What doesn't make sense is you checked the edits, then used an old version of the source instead of the new one which matched your referencing style. You changed what was currently on the page to an old version of what Jayanthkumar had prior to them changing it to your style. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:45, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
The simple answer is I didn't carefully check the format of the references and didn't know that 1) they didn't match and 2) that they have to match. I didn't realize he changed the reference format and I just remember from the time he first edited the page he added an Assam Tribune review and other sources. When looking over other editors' edits, since they make many edits I don't scroll to the very bottom for each edit so I missed the fact that he fixed the reference format. I glanced over his edits , checked his first edit to the page and just copied the reference format. I did not go over his other edits to the page as I already got the reference in the format I needed and if I did, it was just a quick glance to see what he added and not copy any reference. When visiting the Jetlee page to link the Ritesh Rana article, I didn't realize he changed the last reference's format. This seems to be more geared to the way I don't use the same standard of references in general, which ideally I should have been advised so on my talk page. For example on Sudhakar Vasanth's page reference 5's format is in YEAR-MM-DD format. If I had copied that source 7 from Balunga Toka's page is in Date Month Year format with Month listed in words. This edit is more in the past and I don't remember if I copied it from a different page. DareshMohan (talk) 19:19, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
I understand your contention. I just cannot understand why you didn't just copy and paste the current reference as formatted. You went to an old version of the reference which was originally used by the other editor and used that one. --CNMall41 (talk) 19:31, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
I simply didn't check Jetlee's latest revision and just checked Jayanthkumar's first edit. Also, I didn't think even if I had the visited the actual latest revision of Jetlee article, I would get a different version of the source. As a daily occurence, before I edit I usually check the contributions of other editors.
  1. To be completely honest, when working on Ritesh Rana and Jetlee, my focus on Jetlee after I had the ref from the first revision immediately after my edit was purely on the Production section and not the References section. I didn't take time to look at the fact that the latest revision of Jetlee matched my reference format instead of Jayanthkumar123's first edit. Now I know but had I known then I would have done so. It sadly never struck my mind, to double check each of the references I used in article I created and use make sure that all the references are in one/'my' style, and to double check that all of them are in the same format.
  2. Thank you for the conversation. I think it is time to pause the discussion and let the admins come to a mutual decision based on technical evidence. DareshMohan (talk) 19:50, 19 May 2026 (UTC)
Again, I understand what you are telling me. It just doesn't make sense to me. I guess it doesn't have to. To be direct, are you in any way associated with Jayanthkumar123 either as a duplicate account or MEAT?--CNMall41 (talk) 03:39, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
Not related to Jayanthkumar123 in any shape or form. DareshMohan (talk) 08:35, 20 May 2026 (UTC)
Thank you. --CNMall41 (talk) 18:44, 20 May 2026 (UTC)

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

  • Closing without action. I have read the behavioral evidence, and I find it unpersuasive. It is not strange that multiple editors are interested in the subject of Telugu film. What was inappropriate was BluntIsBlunt and associated socks engaging in COI and promotional editing, of which I see no evidence here. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:12, 22 May 2026 (UTC)