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List of Alpha Phi Omega members
Just a note, I'm probably responsible for about 95% of the entries on the page (over the last decade or so), and I do have a COI (I'm an Alpha Phi Omega brother) , though I tend to work across the articles on Fraternities and Sororities as well. I've tended to work under the idea that University Presidents should be on the list regardless of whether they have an article given that they have equal level of notability regardless of whether they have an article. The issues of the Torch and Trefoil are available online if that helps, I just haven't gone through the slog of linking them since that doesn't matter to notability. Looking forward to your work.Naraht (talk) 14:00, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
- The H symbol was an effort a *long* time ago to change some of the text to a graphic to make it shorter. If that is what makes sense to more closely align it with List of Alpha Phi Alpha brothers, so be it. Note, APO USA and APO Philippines *both* start with Alpha and go to Omega, then Alpha Alpha and so on. Alpha for the USA is Lafayette College, Alpha for the Philippines is Far Eastern University and so on, so *something* needing to distinguish the Philippine chapters from the US chapters is needed. Also there are some brothers from the Philippines which are Honorary brothers of APO-USA (like Carlos Romulo). Given that the change has started, I'm willing to help if you are comfortable that it isn't an edit that COI would cause an issue with. And I am an Alpha Phi Omega brother, *but* the concensus on WP:FRAT has generally been that edits to chapter listing and member listings aren't particularly ones that COI influences, your call.Naraht (talk) 00:22, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Naraht, thank you, and good work keeping that list very well-sourced over the years. My knowledge of fraternities is minimal and surface-level (I was once offered a bid for my university's chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, but did not take it due to in-fighting in the chapter). I think any COI you have is minimal here, as this is just a list of notables, so go for it. Curbon7 (talk) 00:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- While I may not theoretically have COI, it *is* an article that I do take a *great* deal of personal pride in. Over the last decade the Alpha Phi Omega national office has started checking its list of Notable members against this article. :) Then you make a wonderful NPOV person on the article. Now what I really should do is take all of the references that are to the Torch and Trefoil (our national magazine) and turn them into cite web and link them appropriate to http://www.apoarchive.org/ .Naraht (talk) 01:00, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Naraht, thank you, and good work keeping that list very well-sourced over the years. My knowledge of fraternities is minimal and surface-level (I was once offered a bid for my university's chapter of Phi Mu Alpha Sinfonia, but did not take it due to in-fighting in the chapter). I think any COI you have is minimal here, as this is just a list of notables, so go for it. Curbon7 (talk) 00:31, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Philippines
The change you've made simply won't work. With the way that you have it, you haven't added *anything* visible to differentiate between someone who is a member of Alpha chapter of APO-USA and Alpha chapter of APO-Phil. *something* needs to be on each line indicating if the membership is in APO-Phil or APO-USA.Naraht (talk) 01:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Is (Philippines) next to the chapter name not enough? I'm not sure the ante version is compliant with MOS:FLAG. Curbon7 (talk) 01:35, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ah. Missed that you added (Philippines) in a previous edit. Sorry. Also, if you get the chance, I did add two COI edit templates to the talk page for one row addition and one reference for an unreferenced entry. Also, a request, if you start removing entries, could you that separately so that I can get a clean diff showing which ones are removed for lack of reference?Naraht (talk) 01:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Lieutenant Governors & Generals.
Looking through the listings, I'm surprised that you consider the Lieutenant Governors of Philippine provinces to be non-notable. I believe that Lieutenant Governors of US States would be considered so, so I think that fits the same rule. Also, I know that WP:NSOLDIER doesn't apply any more, but the question is whether Generals should be in a list like this, I believe that they should. Let me know when you get to the end of the trimming and I'll go through the list of the deleted specifically..Naraht (talk) 14:05, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
- As the Philippines is a unitary country, provincial officials do not meet WP:NPOL. My understanding of MOS:LIST is that dynamic lists such as this should only include notable examples (which means (a) currently existing articles, or (b) definitively notable redlinks, such as those who pass NPOL or who blatantly meet WP:GNG). Curbon7 (talk) 20:52, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi JimKillock, sorry for the long delay, I have been seriously unwell over the past several months and haven't been able to edit very much. I'm trying to get a normal editing pace again and I'll continue working on this article. Curbon7 (talk) 05:49, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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- Hello Ganesha811, apologies for the delay, I have been seriously unwell over the past few months. I will look into completing this GA today. Thanks. Curbon7 (talk) 05:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
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Hi, I understand that you undid the close, but I actually did not miss any of the facts, and closed the way I did for a reason. I do not consider that nomination to be a request to review of the linked AfD, I don't think that that AfDs close was truly challenged, and I consider that a page reinstatement request for the BJP Annamalai over the existing one. It's a "clear the name to free it up for the other politician" request, and the putative challenge of the AfD close is obviously perfunctory and frankly offensive, I don't take it in good faith, and that AfD was disruptive in and of itself. —Alalch E. 23:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- Considering this, that AfD does not need to be endorsed to stand. —Alalch E. 23:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- I would note however that the filer included the phrase
It doesn't matter to me whether BKA has an article or not, so let us even ignore BKA
several times (though in fairness it seems to quite matter to them), and their original rationale focused primarily on AIADMK Annamalai with little paid to BJP Annamalai until after I WP:HEYed the article. Curbon7 (talk) 23:14, 23 March 2024 (UTC)- Please, consider everything that the nominator wrote as a whole and understand the intent. It is very clearly a tendentious and abuse-of-process request intended to enable the creation of the article about the BJP Annamalai that masquerades as a challenge of the other Annamalai's keep AfD, and it was started during an existing DRV about the BJP Annamalai that was not going well. See how participants suggested literally banning the nominator, adding the page to DEEPER etc. This is not my original reasoning. —Alalch E. 23:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
- All in all, you undid my close based on your belief that I didn't have the right facts, and that I misidentified the AfD, but I did actually have the right facts, and I have my reasoning that could be somewhat different than yours, and I stand by my close as a proper and needed close. A moderate difference in opinion should not be a reason for you to undo my close. You should still see my close at least as reasonable. I actually think it's excelletn. I propose that you undo the reversal of the close, because it is not an "improper close" as you wrote.—Alalch E. 23:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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I will attempt to put down my arguments to why the page K. Annamalai is not deserved by the subject of it, but instead is deserved by the other guy
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I was looking at our CSD G13 list for April 20, 2024 and saw all of these blank drafts on State legislatures coming due at the 22:32 UTC hour (you can sort the list by time). There is practically no content so I was going to delete them as test edits and then I saw that you were the page creator. So, do you think you are going to create content on them over the next day? If you want to keep blank pages, it's better to keep them in your User space so you don't have to worry about G13 (as long as you don't have an AFC template on the page). Even if you make a minor edit to try to delay deletion, they really should be deleted as test pages as they are simply empty pages with no information. So, assuming that no one else comes across them before you come back to Wikipedia, what do you intend to do with them? At this point, they have existed as blank pages since May 2023. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:08, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Liz. This was a project I never got around to completing and likely will not; I've lost the main source I was using and have been unable to find it again (I think it got removed off of JSTOR). It seems I had forgotten to G7 these. Thanks for reaching out. Curbon7 (talk) 05:35, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
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"The only thing I care about here is that the articles I create are sufficiently linked. If there is an applicable country subarticle (1975 in Austria does not currently exist) I always add new creations there, if there is not then I must add to the main year article until such a page is created."
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- I've already created 1975 in Austria myself. Category:1975 in Austria includes plenty of events and such, and it was also the year of the OPEC siege. Curbon7 (talk) 18:22, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
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My edit to Miami-Dade County
Can you like not revert my edits with no probable cause as to you reverting them. I assumed the reason you reverted my edit on the page for Miami-Dade County because of the edit summary and the fact that I forgot to add a source but I didnt think I needed to source it because as you can tell from the map in the infobox it's obvious that it's in the southern half of Florida, but I added it anyway so that you dont revert it back. The info was already there. The source doesnt need to be on the page itself. MidAtlanticBaby (talk) 09:28, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Your bizarre edit summary is indeed what drew my attention. Such humor tends to not translate well over screen. Curbon7 (talk) 09:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
K. Annamalai (1984)
please move Draft:K. Annamalai to K. Annamalai by --Sunuraju (talk) 09:09, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, the path to recreation is listed at Draft:K. Annamalai, namely requiring the original AfD be overturned through WP:DRV. Curbon7 (talk) 17:38, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Joseph Branch
Noted here though unclear which one. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:53, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Also noted on three pages here. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:56, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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Draft:Aimeliik State Legislature
Hello, Curbon7,
I just noticed that this draft is due to be deleted as a stale draft and you are unlikely to receive a notification so here is one. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 02:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
strikethrough
Just FYI, the valid code for that is <s>...</s>. The <strike>...</strike> version hasn't been valid HTML since the 1990s. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 02:48, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
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Hello, can you submit a draft then reviewing it yourself? That's a little bit strange. -Lemonaka 03:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'm discussing Jacob A. Eaton -Lemonaka 03:39, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes this is allowed; the AFC process is an entirely optional one. Curbon7 (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I knew AFC process is an entirely optional one, what about directly move it to (main) namespace? Anyway, it's a bit of against common sense that you can reviewed a draft submitted by yourself. -Lemonaka 06:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I was going to move it to mainspace anyways, as it is a notable and sufficient draft. It is more convenient to move an AFC draft using AFCH, as this automatically cleans up the draft and notifies the creator. This saves at least a few minutes from using the normal page move tool. If you disagree, you are welcome to discuss at WT:AFC or other processes; I always welcome review. Curbon7 (talk) 20:55, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- I knew AFC process is an entirely optional one, what about directly move it to (main) namespace? Anyway, it's a bit of against common sense that you can reviewed a draft submitted by yourself. -Lemonaka 06:16, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes this is allowed; the AFC process is an entirely optional one. Curbon7 (talk) 05:22, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
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Re: your recent (subsequently deleted) contribution to COIN...
I do take your general point, however my feeling was that when I originally tagged the article on 22/8 it was not "drive-by" as I had linked to the ongoing discussion at COIN in my edit summary (albeit that the link didn't actually work as I had intended).
However, if I had done something incorrect (as may well have been the case) I'd be grateful if you could clarify for me, as I do try to abide by the relevant policies and guidelines.
Many thanks, Axad12 (talk) 09:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- I removed the word drive-by prior to just reverting the entire comment, as I felt it was indeed poor word choice for that particular situation. My point was that when two stalwart sides are deadlocked like that, it is much more constructive to break that deadlock (in this case through AfD) than to continue it. Curbon7 (talk) 19:53, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, I agree. The whole thing seems to have been complete storm in a teacup. However, at least there is now an AfD where users can disagree over the (at best) borderline claim to notability, rather than a silly ongoing disagreement on the rights or wrongs of the tagging.
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…gone for it. Why though? Best, Reading Beans 10:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Life can be busy, I suppose. But maybe it’s good to go for it when you’re busy; stops you from constantly looking. Maybe just dealing with questions in the evening is a good thing. Schwede66 18:06, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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