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Military registrations

Hi @ZLEA: how are registrations of military aircraft (more specifically French aircraft) formatted? For example, according to Aerial Visuals, the C-54 was given the serial "s/n 49148" and bore the markings "9148", whilst the Bureau of Aircraft Accidents Archives says that the C-54 was registered as "49148/F-YEGA". How should the aircraft's registration be formatted/given? Aviationwikiflight (talk) 08:27, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

Aviationwikiflight the example you picked appears to be an unusual case. The aircraft was originally assigned the serial number "44-9148" by the USAAF, though it wore the truncated markings "49148" on its tail (a common practice during the 1940s, commonly called a "tail number"). It seems that when the French Navy acquired the aircraft, they kept the tail number rather than assigning a new registration or serial number. My best guess is that the French government was still recovering from the Nazi occupation and had more important things to do than come up with a new serialization system. "F-YEGA" is simply a call sign, not a registration. Some sources seem to confuse such call signs for civilian registrations, since they seemingly follow the latter's format, but they do not appear in France's aircraft registry.
It seems the modern French military does not use a standardized serialization system like the US. Instead, they use the manufacturer serial number, which means that aircraft of different types can have overlapping serial numbers. - ZLEA TǀC 09:33, 7 December 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you for your edit. Buckshot06 (talk) 18:43, 17 December 2025 (UTC)

You may not agree with the political perspective of this person who is speaking, but we should never stop trying to make the world a better place. Forgive me if it appears that I have disrespected you by copying over this link. Kind regards, Buckshot06 (talk) 19:03, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Buckshot06 No disrespect taken. As we all know, it can be hard to build an encyclopedia in a divided environment. We all have our opinions, biases, and our own personal perceptions of truth that can make it hard to build a subjective encyclopedia. Such is human nature, and we all have our own ways of dealing with it. I don't actively avoid topics that I have biases towards or against, at least not in the way I did years ago, but it kind of helps that my main interest isn't in politics in general.
One piece of advice I think everyone should follow is to ask yourself one question before you publish: Am I making this edit out of anger or frustration towards the situation? If the answer is yes, then maybe consider holding off. If the answer is yes but you still think there is encyclopedic value to it, maybe make an edit request on the talk page so others can weigh in. We are all here to build an encyclopedia, so we should all work together to ensure it's done right. There's no shame in acknowledging one's own biases, and doing so not only help others understand you better, but can also help with your own awareness of previously subconscious biases, allowing you to manage them more easily. - ZLEA TǀC 20:28, 17 December 2025 (UTC)
Many thanks for your kind and restrained thoughts!! Congratulations and 11/10!! - cannot tell from your reply above which side of the divide you fall on!! Merry Christmas and happy holidays!! Buckshot06 (talk) 16:15, 20 December 2025 (UTC)
Right back at you! Have a happy new year as well! - ZLEA TǀC 16:24, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

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Here's to a... hopefully less-chaotic year, eh? EF5 18:30, 19 December 2025 (UTC)
EF5 Indeed! I doubt it will be any less chaotic, but hopefully it'll at least be chaotic in a good way. - ZLEA TǀC 16:23, 21 December 2025 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue 236, December 2025

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What am I suppose to do?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Philippine_Airlines_Flight_475&action=history


This editor keeps reverting my edits even after I go to the talk page and seek consensus. they say, "it is a imaginary consensus". Zaptain United (talk) 14:58, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

I've told the editor to read WP:IMPLICITCONSENSUS. If they have a legitimate reason to prefer the original image, they should bring it up on the talk page per WP:BRD. If they don't have such a reason, then they should self revert. - ZLEA TǀC 18:59, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
Could I revert their edits or would that be edit warring. Zaptain United (talk) 19:02, 1 January 2026 (UTC)
Let's wait a day or two to give them a chance to self revert. I see that you've has run-ins with this user in the past, so hopefully this can be an opportunity to ease tensions. If they ignore the pings or refuse to do so but still don't voice their opinions on the images themselves, I'll probably restore your edit to remove the only (illegitimate) concern they've actually voiced. - ZLEA TǀC 19:08, 1 January 2026 (UTC)

Do you know if Luxembourg Airport had changed their name in the past?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_Airport#

It said it was formerly known as Luxembourg Findel Airport, but I don't know if they officially changed their name. I need to solve this confusion for this draft.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:2001_MK_Airlines_Boeing_747_crash Zaptain United (talk) 05:42, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Not sure about this one. The airport's website does not mention any past names. The website almost exclusively refers to the airport as "Luxembourg Airport", but some websites such as Flightradar24 use "Luxembourg Findel Airport". It's probably best to use "Luxembourg Airport" unless the sources indicate that it was known by a different name at the time. - ZLEA TǀC 09:42, 4 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, ZLEA. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 02:36, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Anniversary ZLEA 🎉

Hey @ZLEA. Your wiki edit anniversary is today, marking 9 years of dedicated contributions to English Wikipedia. Your passion for sharing knowledge and your remarkable contributions have not only enriched the project, but also inspired countless others to contribute. Thank you for your amazing contributions. Wishing you many more wonderful years ahead in the Wiki journey and a blessed New Year. :) -❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 17:32, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks! Has it been 9 years already? Wow, I'm getting old. - ZLEA TǀC 18:23, 5 January 2026 (UTC)

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Should I change the title?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Valan_International_Cargo_Charter_Antonov_An-26_crash#

the final report said vol KONDOR 26, which translates to Kondor Flight 26. Zaptain United (talk) 02:11, 9 January 2026 (UTC)

There was a requested move in 2021, but that was by a sockpuppeter and they didn't receive a response when they replied. Zaptain United (talk) 02:12, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
https://bea.ci/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/RAPPORT-FINAL-ER-AVB-BEA-CI-mars2019-1.pdf Zaptain United (talk) 02:13, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Zaptain United The consensus established by that move request is still valid even after the proposer was blocked for sockpuppetry. Therefore, the best course of action would be to start a new move request, ideally with much more convincing arguments than last one. - ZLEA TǀC 08:14, 9 January 2026 (UTC)
Do you think Flight 26 is the flight number? Zaptain United (talk) 03:59, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
I think "KONDOR 26" was the callsign. Without reliable sources, we cannot equate that to "Kondor Flight 26". Doing so would be WP:OR. - ZLEA TǀC 04:03, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
But, the final report states vol KONDOR 26, which is Kondor Flight 26. Zaptain United (talk) 04:04, 10 January 2026 (UTC)
I suppose that's a good point. If you believe that's sufficient evidence to convince people to change the consensus, then you should at least try and open a new move request. I personally would look for at least one other source first, just to be safe. - ZLEA TǀC 04:11, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

Beta Technologies Alia

Hi Zlea. If you've not done so already, you might like to take a look at the new sources mentioned at Talk:Beta Technologies. I've incorporated most into that article but some could also be used for your Alia article. Regards. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:06, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

Michael D. Turnbull Thanks, I'll take a look. - ZLEA TǀC 15:37, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

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  • The International Space Station's eight compartments were fully occupied for the first time on 1 December, with the rebirthing of Cygnus NG-23 to Unity.
  • On 3 December, China's Zhuque-3 made the first non-American attempt at landing a booster. The booster failed to land following a landing-burn anomaly. A second attempt on the 23rd, this time using the new Long March 2A launch vehicle, also failed.
  • On 6 December, contact with NASA's MAVEN Mars orbiter was lost. The last received telemetry was from the 4th, with the fragmented transmission of the 6th suggesting that the craft was rotating in an unintended way, and possibly having changed orbit. As of 16 January 2026, the mission has not yet been officially ended, although reestablishing communications with MAVEN is considered highly improbable.
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It was intended to flyby the asteroid (185851) 2000 DP107 in 2016, but the plan was abandoned due to the malfunction of the ion thruster.

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STS-116 spacewalk

STS-116 was the 33rd mission of the Space Shuttle Discovery. Launched in the late evening of 6 December, the main aims of the mission were the installation of one of the International Space Station's Integrated Truss Structure segments, rewiring of the power system, and personnel exchange. Also known as ISS-12A.1, STS-116 was the first mission to include a Swedish astronaut, Christer Fuglesang. It returned to Earth in the evening of 22 December.

This image, of the first of three EVA sessions, was taken on the fourth day of the mission. Flight engineer Robert Curbeam is on the left, opposite mission specialist 3 Christer Fuglesang. The image was taken over New Zealand; the South Island is visible on the left, while the southern portion of the North Island, mostly consisting of the Wairarapa region, is visible in the top-right.

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  1. China Zhuque-3no payload (3 Dec. at 04:00) (success)
  2. South KoreaBrazilIndia HANBIT-NANOvarious (22 Dec. at 12:45) (launch failure)
  3. China Long March 12Amass simulator (23 Dec. at 02:00:00) (success)
  4. IndiaUnited States LVM3 — BlueBird-6 (24 Dec. at 03:25:30) (success)
  5. RussiaIranMontenegroKuwaitBelarus Soyuz-2.1b (1st stage), Fregat-M (2nd stage) — various (28 Dec. at 13:18:05) (success)
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:27, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Could you block this user?

This user just types in wrong fatalitiy numbers and has keep doing that. The worrying part is that nobody reverts there vandalism for many hours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/~2026-23862-8 Zaptain United (talk) 20:10, 17 January 2026 (UTC)

Zaptain United I am not an admin, so I cannot block the user. I have given them a level 1 warning for unsourced changes. If they continue after a final (level 4) warning, you can report them to WP:AIV. - ZLEA TǀC 20:23, 17 January 2026 (UTC)
The only thing is, I've checked multiple sources and they seem to show that in this case, @Zaptain United is correct in every single instance of reversion. These edits were incorrect and he/she/they had every right to revert them. ~2026-21637 (talk) 02:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
Yeah, this appears to be yet another case of what some like to call "number vandalism", which is a usually WP:SNEAKY form of vandalism in which an editor deliberately changes numbers to wrong values. This can be difficult to distinguish from good faith unsourced changes, but in this case we have an apparent reference to 69 and a very drastic increase in casualty numbers. As much as I would like to assume good faith, these two examples make it hard to believe that this could be anything other than vandalism. - ZLEA TǀC 03:49, 18 January 2026 (UTC)
Indeed. ~2026-21637 (talk) 11:53, 18 January 2026 (UTC)

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Could you help me find the registration number for this incident?

Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 342 Zaptain United (talk) 14:14, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Zaptain United I was unable to find any sources (interestingly, not even unreliable sources) for its registration, and it appears that not even ASN wikibase has any idea what the registration was. If not even ASN has it, then I think it's safe to say the registration was not publicly reported. It also appears that the NTSB never formally investigated the incident, so we have no such reports to look at. The only idea I have to find the registration is to contact Aerolíneas Argentinas directly, as maybe they still have the flight logs from that day. That said, there's no guarantee they'd give that information even if they have it, and it certainly would not be usable on Wikipedia. - ZLEA TǀC 14:28, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
What about this one? Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 386
The only mention of any registration number is with Simple Flying, which is an unreliable source. Could you find another source mentioning the flight number for this incident?  Zaptain United (talk) 14:30, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Also, maybe this one as well? United Airlines Flight 863 Zaptain United (talk) 14:31, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
Cross-searching for Aerolíneas Argentinas Flight 386 and the claimed registration did not bring up any reliable sources. I did see someone on Reddit speculate that Simple Flying might have used an older version of the Wikipedia article as its source, which sadly makes sense to me. United Airlines Flight 863 appears to be a similar case to the others. It seems these three incidents were never formally investigated, or at least that their registrations were never publicly reported. - ZLEA TǀC 14:40, 26 January 2026 (UTC)
alright thanks for trying. Zaptain United (talk) 23:22, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 21:16, 26 January 2026 (UTC)

Should the name in the article be changed and should I do a RFC on it?

I think it should be changed to American Eagle Flight 5342 from American Airlines Flight 5342. For one, all the other American Eagle accident articles have American Eagle or the Regional Airline in the title or article. There are more search results for American Eagle Flight 5342. American Airlines uses American Eagle itself. Just today, sources are using American Eagle instead of American Airlines.


https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2025/Information-regarding-American-Eagle-Flight-5342/default.aspx


https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2025/Information-regarding-American-Eagle-Flight-5342/default.aspx Zaptain United (talk) 20:05, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

It is also just plain inaccurate. American Airlines does NOT operate the Bombardier CRJ700 series of aircraft per the fleet page: see here. Zaptain United (talk) 20:06, 27 January 2026 (UTC)
Zaptain United This has actually been discussed several times on the article's talk page. See Name of commercial airline flight and Name of commercial airline flight (2). It's been almost a year since the last discussion, so I recommend bringing it up again to see if the consensus changes. - ZLEA TǀC 20:22, 27 January 2026 (UTC)

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What do you think of this "evidence"?

I respect you as a editor who is calm and respectful. Their user thinks I am a sockpuppet of this other banned user in the past because I edit many aircraft accident articles just like they did. I think they are cherrypicking and not including that I edit many other aircraft accident articles and have edited on articles the sockpuppeter nominated for deletion because I disagree with their decisions. I am probarly screw by admin because of the events going on at the Haneda runway collision.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Yamla#Checkuser,_well_check Zaptain United (talk) 20:05, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

Zaptain United I'll be honest, this doesn't look very good. I'm not an admin, so I can't see the deleted contributions they mentioned, but based on everything else I would not call their suspicions unfounded. Both you and TG-article seem to have very similar interests and editing patterns, and it doesn't take cherrypicking to recognize them. Your account was also created only three months after TG-article's block, which could be seen as evidence for block evasion.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not accusing you of being a sockpuppet or evading a block, and this could all be a coincidence (I've seen quite a few of those in my time here). However, I think most editors would agree that it's at least worth looking into. Yamla has a lot of experience investigating sockpuppetry, so I trust their judgement. If you're not evading a block, then I don't think you have much to worry about and this should all blow over quickly. - ZLEA TǀC 22:22, 28 January 2026 (UTC)

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Farewell address and message

I just want to say out of the editors I ever met here; I found you the one of the more likeable and respectful editors. This is why I commented more for your advice, and you were one of the few positives of editing. Anyway, I am busy with my personal life, and the last few days of Wikipedia have been taking an insane amount of time away. I realize it is not worth it especially battling an admin who never seems to give up and is obsessive with me. I don't require you to comment on this post and you can even remove this if you want, but I just want to say thank you for your respectfulness, advice, and great passion for aviation. I disagree with you on few things, but you were more nice than other editors. Anyway, I wish you good luck on Wikipedia and goodbye at least for the foreseeable future. Zaptain United (talk) 02:40, 30 January 2026 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. I cannot say I agreed with you all the time, or perhaps even most of the time. I think you had a lot to learn about how Wikipedia operates, but I could see that you had good intentions everywhere I encountered you. If Wikipedia isn't for you, then I'd like to wish you good luck on your future endeavors! - ZLEA TǀC 05:05, 30 January 2026 (UTC)
Goodbye. Just don't drive like my brother. Zaptain United (talk) 04:00, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
"Don't drive like my brother!"
—Rusty Rust-eze, Cars Zaptain United (talk) 04:01, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
Good luck going forward! It's hard to believe Cars is 20 years old this year. I practically grew up with it. - ZLEA TǀC 05:08, 19 February 2026 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you didn't have the best of experiences on Wikipedia and I wish you the best of luck for the future! (And gosh I feel old. Cars was that long ago?) Aviationwikiflight (talk) 11:50, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

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I'm back baby

Hey, I am back after a break. Needed some time to reflect on Wikipedia for a little bit. I just want to ask you a question. Do you think it should be American Eagle Flight 5342 or American Airlines Flight 5342? I ask you earlier, but you told me to do an RFC than give your opinion on this matter. I just want your advice on this. It has just been bothering me since every other regional airline crash has the regional airline or main airline in the title. Zaptain United (talk) 15:09, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

I personally would prefer "American Eagle Flight 5342" for consistency, but there were strong arguments on both sides. The only advice I have is to start an RfC. Most of the discussions about its name occurred within the months after the accident, so sources were still coming in at a rapid rate. Now that we've had a year to settle, I think now is a perfect time to see if consensus has changed. - ZLEA TǀC 17:45, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
Do you think I should start it when the final report releases? Zaptain United (talk) 17:48, 7 February 2026 (UTC)
I would probably start with examples of secondary sources using "American Eagle Flight 5342", then showing that the NTSB and American Airlines themselves use that name. - ZLEA TǀC 18:08, 7 February 2026 (UTC)

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Clarification of Service Withdrawal and Fleet Statistics

Although commercial passenger service was withdrawn in 1978, the Tu-144 program continued until production and development officially ceased in 1983. Of the 17 airframes produced, 7 remain preserved in museums, 8 have been scrapped (including 77101, which survives only as a nose section), and 2 were destroyed in crashes." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:50, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

The total production included 17 airframes. The count of 8 scrapped includes one incomplete airframe (09-2, CCCP-77116) that was never finished, as well as the partially dismantled 77101. 7 preserved in museums 8 scrapped and 2 destroyed ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:54, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I have moved the specific dates (1978, 1983, 1999) to the 'Retired' field to better reflect the program's timeline. For the 'Status' field, I updated it to reflect the physical disposition of the 17 total airframes produced: 7 preserved in museums, 8 scrapped (including the incomplete airframe 77116 and the dismantled 77101), and 2 destroyed. This provides a more accurate overview of the fleet's fate." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:58, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I am aligning the Infobox format with the Concorde article. By moving the service years (1978, 1983) to the 'Retired' field, the 'Status' field can accurately reflect the Fate of the 17 airframes produced: 7 preserved in museums, 8 scrapped (including the incomplete 77116 and dismantled 77101), and 2 destroyed." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 06:59, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I understand the concern about redundancy, but the updated fate (7 preserved, 8 scrapped including incomplete airframes, and 2 destroyed) is intended to provide a clear summary in the Infobox, matching the format used in the Concorde article. The current body text is inconsistent regarding the total of 17 airframes, and this edit clarifies the disposition of all produced units ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 07:06, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I noticed you reverted my edit. I’d like to clarify that the count of 7 preserved, 8 scrapped, and 2 destroyed accounts for the 17 total airframes produced.
Out of the 17 airframes, 16 were completed and 1 (77116) remained incomplete at the Voronezh plant before being scrapped. I have classified the partially dismantled 77101 (nose only) as 'scrapped' to be consistent with the definition of a 'preserved aircraft' used in the Concorde article.
I moved the service dates to the 'Retired' field to maintain better Infobox structure. Please let me know if you have concerns about this specific breakdown." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 07:10, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Fine, I'll leave the status and retired fields separate. That said, I have removed the false claim that the aircraft was retired from commercial service in 1983. The aircraft was retired from passenger service in 1978. To claim that it was "retired from commercial service" in 1983 implies that it was operating in some sort of commercial capacity after 1978, which is not supported anywhere in the article and, as far as I'm aware, completely false. - ZLEA TǀC 08:24, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
I prefer keeping 'Retired from commercial service (1983)' as it correctly encompasses all revenue-generating operations, including cargo and mail, which are standard commercial activities. Furthermore, this year marks the official termination of the entire program, including the scrapping of the unfinished airframe (77116). Splitting it into passenger (1978), commercial (1983), and final flight (1999) provides the most comprehensive timeline for the reader." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 09:35, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
No, it absolutely does not. It only creates more confusion for readers, who often assume "commercial service" means "passenger service". Please change it back to "cargo". - ZLEA TǀC 17:43, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
Since we agree on separating the fields and the significance of 1983 (the official termination of the program and the scrapping of 77116), I will address the potential confusion by being more specific. I will use 'Retired from passenger service (1978)' and 'Retired from commercial cargo service (1983)'. This preserves the revenue-generating (commercial) nature of the 1979–1983 operations while explicitly preventing readers from assuming passengers were involved." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 07:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
That's more reasonable, but still implies that it continued non-commercial cargo service beyond 1983. Here's my proposal:
Passenger service (1978)
Cargo service (1983)
Research (1999)
After that, we populate the currently unused "last_flight" parameter with "26 June 1999". - ZLEA TǀC 20:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
Actually, the claim is supported by historical records. After passenger service ended in 1978, the Tu-144D variant operated a regular commercial cargo and mail service between Moscow and Khabarovsk starting in 1979. These were scheduled revenue flights under Aeroflot, which constitutes commercial service.
Furthermore, the program was officially terminated by a Soviet government decree in July 1983, which is why the last airframe (77116) remained unfinished and was scrapped. To align with the 16 (1 unfinished) production count and the 8 scrapped status, 1983 must be recognized as the end of the commercial program." ~2026-72677-3 (talk) 09:36, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

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1 31 January
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In the News
  • NASA called off a planned spacewalk of SpaceX Crew-11 on 8 January, and later cancelled the mission outright, after one of the crewmembers, Mike Fincke, was reported to have a medical complication. This was the first time that this occurred in US history.
  • On 11 January, the Pandora spacecraft was successfully launched. Pandora is designed to study the atmospheres of transiting exoplanets, with the intention of identifying targets for future observation.
Article of the month

Exoplanetary Circumstellar Environments and Disk Explorer (EXCEDE) is a proposed space telescope for NASA's Explorer program to observe circumstellar protoplanetary and debris discs and study planet formation around nearby (within 100 parsecs) stars of spectral classes M to B. Had it been selected for development, it was proposed to launch in 2019.

The spacecraft concept proposed to use a 70 centimeter diameter telescope-mounted coronagraph called PIAA (Phase Induced Amplitude Apodized Coronagraph) to suppress starlight in order to be able to detect fainter radiation of circumstellar dust. Characterizing constitution of such disks would provide clues for planetary formation (mostly in habitable zones), while already existing exoplanets can be detected through their interaction with dust disk. The project's Principal Investigator is Glenn Schneider.

Image of the month
Wernher von Braun with the Rocketdyne F-1 engines

Pictured here are two titans of spaceflight history: Dr. Wernher von Braun, one of the main figures of the early American space program and designer of both the Saturn V and V-2 rockets, and five (four visible) Rocketdyne F-1 engines, used on the Saturn V Dynamic Test Vehicle. Dr. von Braun's career is noted for a great number of achievements in human spaceflight, including the Apollo mission which successfully put human beings on the moon; nevertheless, it is burdened with the shadow of his activities in the Nazi Party, especially concerning his work on the V-2.

The engines behind him, in addition to being immense, have the honor of being the only engines used to get humans to the moon, as of the time of writing. Developed in the late 1950s, the 8,400 kilograms (18,500 lb) engines are still the most powerful single combustion chamber liquid-propellant rocket ever made.

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January Launches
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  1. United StatesCanadaUnited KingdomFinlandGermany Falcon 9 Block 5various, including Pandora (11 Jan. at 13:44:50) (success)
  2. IndiaThailandSpain PSLV-DLvarious, including EOS-N1 and THEOS-2A (12 Jan. at 04:48:30) (launch failure)
  3. China Ceres-2various (17 Jan. at 04:05) (launch failure)
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Agras T25/T50 release date

Hey ZLEA you reverted my edit in DJI Agras. I translated parts of it for de:DJI Agras T25 and de:DJI Agras T50. Could you please provide me, where the source says that the release was in 2022? The source is from September 2023 and the release is mentioned as a future event. My German Source says release was in April 2024. NDG (talk) 21:41, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

NDG The source says To be clear, Agras T50 and Agras T25 are not new DJI products. These drones were released in China last year and have proven incredibly successful for field spraying, fertilizer spreading, fruit tree spraying, and other agricultural applications. (emphasis mine) - ZLEA TǀC 21:47, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
Damn me, gotcha. That was the first time I find issues between UE/EU-release and China-release. Thank you. Most of the manuals were released in 2024 and I can't find another source, as the source of DroneDJ does not exist anymore. First I will revert myself and then check for 2022-sources. Regards NDG (talk) 21:54, 22 March 2026 (UTC)
If I recall correctly, most Agras models were released in China almost a year before the rest of the world, which unfortunately makes it hard to gather any information on new models. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by DroneDJ not existing anymore as I was literally just reading one of their new articles before I saw your edit. Maybe it's not available in your region? - ZLEA TǀC 22:03, 22 March 2026 (UTC)

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1 28 February
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In the News
  • The first crewed spaceflight of 2026, SpaceX Crew-12, was launched on the 13th. Four astronauts were flown to the ISS in an atypical indirect handover that was caused by the early return of Crew-11 due to a medical emergency.
  • On the 14th, the ESA lost contact with PROBA-3, a dual-probe technological demonstration mission for chronographic high-precision formation flying. Specifically, the Chronograph Spacecraft lost orientation and drifted away from the Occulter.
Article of the month

A parking orbit is a temporary orbit used during the launch of a spacecraft. A launch vehicle follows a trajectory to the parking orbit, then coasts for a while, then engines fire again to enter the final desired trajectory.

An alternative trajectory that is used on some missions is direct injection, where the rocket fires continuously (except during staging) until its fuel is exhausted, ending with the payload on the final trajectory. This technique was first used by the Soviet Venera 1 mission to Venus in 1961.

Image of the month
Space Shuttle Endeavour prior to rendezvous with the International Space Station

Part of a series of photographs, this image depicts the Space Shuttle Endeavour prior to rendezvous and docking with the International Space Station as part of STS-130 in 2010. It was taken from the station by a member of Expedition 22 when the ISS was 183 nautical miles above the South Pacific, off the coast of southern Chile. Earth is in the bottom-left; the orange part of the atmosphere is the troposphere, the white band in the middle is the stratosphere, and the blue section is the mesosphere.

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February Launches
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  1. RussiaIran Proton-M/DM-03Elektro–L №5, Jam-e-Jam 1 (12 Feb. at 08:52:15) (success)
  2. United States Vulcan Centaur VC4SGSSAP-7/-8, USA-584 (12 Feb. at 09:22:00) (success)
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An off-topic conversation?

I see your list of 12 aircraft that you have spotted, that went on later to crash;

I see your 12, and raise you 96(1), most of which are proper airliners, with upwards of 5-8,000 total fatalities. The list isn't here on my Wikipedia pages, but I thought you might be curious to find there's someone else out there - I know I was surprised. Despite those numbers I have only personally witnessed a handful of events, and missed several others either by minutes, or by looking in the wrong direction whilst they happened, and of course some near-misses too, but that is still more than enough to leave a lasting impression. Here are some events that happened whilst I was looking in another direction, in a manner of words, and probably just as well. You will see from the dates that I have a few years on you, and mostly they date back to the 70s, when aircraft fell out of the sky on a daily basis.

(1) I stopped counting at 96, most of them covered by Wiki pages, but I know there could be another hundred, possibly several hundred if I go on to add up the small-fry. It is probably not something to brag about, but there it is. WendlingCrusader (talk) 16:22, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

WendlingCrusader Holy... Thankfully I've only spotted two with fatalities, both light aircraft (though I have flown an aircraft that crashed several years later, killing all onboard). One I have not listed yet is N932XJ, which I spotted at KCVG back in 2023, less than two years before it was involved in Delta Connection Flight 4819. I rediscovered it when going through my unpublished photos, and of course I will be uploading it to Commons with my next batch of photos. - ZLEA TǀC 16:44, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

Another conversation

I have come across a well-dodgy editor (possibly), who you may have brushed up against already. I should add that I'm not sure of the proper way to do this, and despite my advanced years I am not comfortable with conflict. You will no doubt recall the recently departed Zaptain United, and his love of changing aircraft images. But where he trod, you will often find Special:Contributions/Ternant_728228 following in, slipping quietly under the radar by marking his 63 edits as "minor", and leaving absolutely no edit summary. I do not count changing aircraft images as minor! To be fair, some, maybe most, of his edits could be genuine improvements, but perhaps he needs some tactful coaching. That is unless he is in some way related to the aforementioned Zaptain_U ? Are you in a position to glance at his work and confirm I'm not imagining things? WendlingCrusader (talk) 16:41, 30 March 2026 (UTC)

WendlingCrusader Unfortunately I probably won't have much time to look at it for a few hours, but coincidentally (or not) I found and reported a few TAs yesterday that I have reason to believe belong to Zaptain United. The case page is here. - ZLEA TǀC 16:48, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Looking at their contributions, I doubt Ternant 728228 is Zaptain United. I think the fact that they edit the same articles can reasonably be explained by them just having similar interests. They do appear to have had disagreements at times, such as this one at Inex-Adria Aviopromet Flight 1308, and other times Zaptain United made refinements to Ternant's edits.
Overall, I don't see any reason to believe Ternant 728228 is a sockpuppet. The account was created back in December and they've made only a single edit since Zaptain United's partial block. I also see little to no shared edit patterns between the two accounts. - ZLEA TǀC 17:51, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Ok, but it wasn't just a sockpuppet thing; there are also the issues of labelling everything "minor", no edit summaries, and effecting image changes without Talk page discussion. Do they need sympathetic mentoring? Do they already have a mentor, who could be asleep-at-the-wheel? (I had one of those, originally) WendlingCrusader (talk) 18:33, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to say about that. There are a lot of issues with their actions, but they have never been warned and I see nothing malicious. It's been almost a month since their last edit, so I wouldn't bother doing anything unless they return and continue making problematic edits. - ZLEA TǀC 18:58, 30 March 2026 (UTC)
Hey, could I defend myself? Zaptain United (talk) 18:38, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
I asked @Ternant 728228 on their talk page on Wikimedia for image uploads. I have requested a lot of uploads. I am really disappointed you think me and them are sockpuppets. I just want to be left alone. I am only responding because I don't want this to affect my Wikimedia activities. This is the 4th time I am been accused of being a sockpuppeter or sockpuppet.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ternant_728228 Zaptain United (talk) 18:43, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
I do not think Ternant 728228 is a sockpuppet account. I analyzed their edits and found no evidence of such. As for the IPs, I do hope it's just nothing, but the evidence I found was too convincing to just ignore. As I said during the last time someone suspected you of sockpuppetry, the admins who investigate SPIs have years of experience under their belts. I trust they will come to the right conclusion. - ZLEA TǀC 00:41, 2 April 2026 (UTC)

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Bird watching

Oh, you got me good there. I didn't actually go to your page to find a Lesser Spotted Flycatcher, and now I feel like a Great Tit. So I see you have claimed the Yak-52 twice, once as an Aerostar Iak-52. I call that clutching at straws.
But I absolutely draw the line at the idea of an Airspeed Mosquito. What were you thinking? We just don't do that! (I would love to hear your counter-argument)

You've clearly got a great eye, and probably a darn good camera too. I saw a good few of those when the last nine RAF Tonkas put on a farewell flypast at Marham just before Covid; half of Holland came over on the boat just to line up at the security fence on step-ladders and click away. No tickets, no air show, just a farmer's field and a flypast, but there were $3,000 cameras there in their hundreds. Or is $3,000 just small change these days? I'm glad I'm not that mad any more.

WendlingCrusader (talk) 12:24, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

It appears I totally misidentified the second Yak. It is indeed another Iak-52 rather than a Yak-52M. As for the Mosquito, I go by the company that actually built the aircraft in cases of licensed (or unlicensed) production. As much as I would like a $3,000 camera, I typically use a Canon Rebel T7 which cost me only $700 with two lenses, though sometimes I'll whip out my iPhone if I have to. I may have spent the rest of my camera budget on the drone in this infobox. - ZLEA TǀC 13:15, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
Oh, I know exactly how the Airspeed connection came about; I lived on top of Parker Knoll, one of the many furniture factories in High Wycombe that made parts for the Mosquito. But you won't find anybody on this side of the Atlantic that would give you tuppence for a Gloster Hurricane, or worse still an Austin Motor Company Lancaster. During WWII anybody and everybody was roped in to build aircraft. At one point we even had women knitting Spitfires. It wasn't license production in any commercial sense; it was done at the end of a gun barrel. But it is your list, so Carry On Regardless. (I'm laughing, hope you are too)
WendlingCrusader (talk) 15:20, 1 April 2026 (UTC)
I'm sorry, knitting Spitfires? That's one I'll have to look into. - ZLEA TǀC 15:22, 1 April 2026 (UTC)

US geography for non-US readers

I know there are conventions for describing places in the USA, for instance tacking on the state in order to identify Little Rock, Arkansas, from any of the other various places called Little Rock. We have our own ideas over here, although the latest generation have been raised with sat-nav, and couldn't find there way out of a paper bag without some assistance from technology.

So, please take a look at the Boeing Renton Factory. The intro and pop-up tells us only that it is next to Renton Municipal Airport. Wow! I'm guessing they are both located somewhere in a place called Renton. But without following the links, or interrogating the Infobox, I have absolutely no idea where that is. As an aviation fan, I have obviously heard of Renton, but amongst the general population outside of the US, the name 'Boeing' would at best be linked with Seattle. Curiously, the city of Seattle is only mentioned twice in the Renton article, specifically to identify the locations of Boeing Field (King County) and Everett.

Q. Does it look right to you that the article jumps straight from Renton to Washington, and skips mentioning Seattle completely? And even if that is strictly correct in terms of US Postal format, should the article do more for potentially confused readers from outside of America? Or is it just me who is out of step?

WendlingCrusader (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2026 (UTC)

Well, the Renton, Washington article described Renton as a city within the Seattle metropolitan area, but not within the city of Seattle itself. Therefore, I think it might cause unnecessary confusion to include Seattle in the infobox. I think we can probably mention Washington in the lead, but mentioning Seattle is probably outside the scope of the article. Readers who want to know more about the city of Renton will click the link to its article. Same goes for articles like Technik Museum Sinsheim. Most readers outside of Germany might not know where Sinsheim is located, but that's fine because it's linked in the article for readers who want to know more. - ZLEA TǀC 13:17, 6 April 2026 (UTC)

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Wren 460

G’day from Oz. I am not at all surprised that you undid my edit, but as far as I can see there is no source that says the mods apply to the Cessna 180. If I am wrong, please show me the information that demonstrates this. The STC issued by the FAA to Peterson for the airframe and engine modifications only lists models of the 182 and the 180 is very different to the 182. It is true that I didn’t add sources, but the extra information I added is from the sources already in the article. I am editing on an iPad, which adds to the difficulty of making complex edits. Absent evidence of the 180 being modified, please self-revert your undoing of my edit. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 06:39, 23 April 2026 (UTC)

YSSYguy Per Brown, Kevin (September 1963). "Takeoff at 30" (PDF). Popular Mechanics., The Wren [460] is actually a mongrel, made from a standard Cessna 180 or 182 with four major modifications... While Popular Mechanics is considered unreliable specifically in the context of UFOs, this falls outside that topic. For all we know, the article could have been referring to planned conversions that were never built or were built but fell into obscurity, but we may never know unless other reliable sources directly address or challenge the claim. Therefore, given the absence of such sources, I see no grounds to self revert. - ZLEA TǀC 16:51, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
I did some digging and found this 1968 company document that states (page 3 of the PDF) that the company was actively developing full Wren conversion kits for new and used Cessna 180, 182, and 185. Whether development of the 180/185 kits were completed and any aircraft were converted is probably worth looking into, but we at least have confirmation from the company that such a project did exist. - ZLEA TǀC 17:03, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
The Popular Mechanics article is wrong. I’m not being rude (writing can’t properly convey tone), but you have given too much weight to one sentence in one source, and the FAA-issued Supplemental Type Certificate alone outweighs that source by several orders of magnitude. Again not being rude or dismissive, if you were in the aircraft manufacturing or maintenance industry you would know that the most important document is the Supplemental Type Certificate. The STC only covers models of the 182, therefore the modifications cannot legally be done on any Cessna 180, it’s as simple as that. The Popular Mechanics article was in the September 1963 issue (before the STC was issued by the FAA), but the Wren Corporate History document you referred to above, dated February 1968, makes clear that only 182s had been modified and sold, and that modifications of the 180 were described (on Sheet #1, page 3 of the PDF as you pointed out) under the heading “Under development are the following potential products”.
Bear in mind also that, by the time the Wren was developed in the 1960s, the 182 could no longer be considered a tricycle-gear version of the 180 - the 182 had evolved into a significantly different aircraft (Wren was only modifying brand-new 182s). Please also consider the fact that every other source and document mentions only the 182. The Wren 460 Inspection (i.e. maintenance) Manual only mentions the Cessna 182. The FAA-approved Flight Manual Supplement only applies to the 182. What that all adds up to, is that it cannot be said that the Wren 460 was anything other than a modified 182, as I amended the article Lede to state (which you undid); and the most that can be said regarding the 180 is that Wren designed modifications for the 180 and 185, but they weren’t proceeded with (keep in mind that by 1968, considerable effort would have been directed to winning the USAF “Quiet Bird” order and when that failed to occur, it killed the company - in 1969 according to various articles).
(As an aside, the fact that by February 1968 the company had produced 49 Wrens and it went bankrupt the following year, the figure of ‘200’ aircraft produced - which I know is in multiple sources - looks rather dubious. Think about it - production would have had to increase from one a month to two or three a week. Possible, but extremely unlikely.) Anyway, I have demonstrated that the article is incorrect to mention the Wren being based on the 180; nothing about my edit was incorrect, but could have been referenced better (as noted before, I’m editing on an iPad, which frankly is a pain in the arse - it’s taken me five hours to compose this reply - but I don’t have anything else) and I ask again that you self-revert. Cheers YSSYguy (talk) 13:11, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
I am in no position to self-revert now, but I will do so as soon as I can. Regardless, still no sources directly address the Popular Mechanics claim, so it's still probably worth noting in a footnote at the very least. - ZLEA TǀC 18:45, 25 April 2026 (UTC)

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In the News
  • On 22 March, Baikonur Cosmodrome Site 31 was used for the first time since being damaged in November 2025. Progress MS-33, a resupply mission to the ISS, was launched from the site following substantial repairs.
  • ESA launched the first two satellites in the Celeste constellation on 28 March. They were launched aboard a Electron launch vehicle, marking the first time ESA has used the vehicle.
  • China's Qingzhou cargo spacecraft was tested for the first time on 30 March. Launched on the maiden flight of the Kinetica 2, the prototype performed a number of tests in coordination with another satellite.
Article of the month
The X-37B back on Earth after completing OTV-2

OTV-2 (also known as USA-226) was the first flight of the second Boeing X-37B, an American unmanned robotic vertical-takeoff, horizontal-landing spaceplane. It was launched aboard an Atlas V rocket from Cape Canaveral on 5 March 2011, and landed at Vandenberg Air Force Base on 16 June 2012. It operated in low Earth orbit. Its USA-226 mission designation is part of the USA series.

The spaceplane was operated by Air Force Space Command, which has not revealed the specific identity of the payload for the first flight. The Air Force stated only that the spacecraft would "demonstrate various experiments and allow satellite sensors, subsystems, components, and associated technology to be transported into space and back."

Image of the month
STS-1

STS-1 (Space Transportation System-1) was the first orbital spaceflight of NASA's Space Shuttle program. The first orbiter, Columbia, launched on April 12, 1981, and returned on April 14, 1981, 54.5 hours later, having orbited the Earth 37 times. Columbia carried a crew of two—commander John W. Young and pilot Robert L. Crippen. It was the first American crewed space flight since the Apollo–Soyuz Test Project (ASTP) in 1975. STS-1 was also the maiden test flight of a new American spacecraft to carry a crew, though it was preceded by atmospheric testing (ALT) of the orbiter and ground testing of the Space Shuttle system.

The launch occurred on the 20th anniversary of Vostok 1, the first human spaceflight, performed by Yuri Gagarin for the USSR. This was a coincidence rather than a celebration of the anniversary; a technical problem had prevented STS-1 from launching two days earlier, as was planned.

Members

New Members: Swedmark111 (26 March)

Number of active members: 220. Total number of members: 447.

March Launches
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  1. United States Alpha Block 1 — ICOR SV (11 Mar. at 00:50:00) (success)
  2. Russia Soyuz-2.1aProgress MS-33 (22 Mar. at 11:59:51) (success)
  3. United StatesEuropean Union Rocket Lab ElectronCeleste IOD-1/-2 (28 Mar. at 09:14:00) (success)
  4. China Kinetica 2 — New March 01/02, TS 01 (30 Mar. at 11:00:00) (success)
Article Statistics
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Monthly Changes

Since February 2026, there are 16 more Low-importance, eleven more NA-importance, and eleven more Unknown-importance articles, for a total of 38 new articles. There are also one more GA-class, one more B-class, 14 more C-class, 19 more Start-class, one fewer Stub-class articles, and three more lists.

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Administrators' newsletter – May 2026

News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2026).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

removed

Oversight changes

removed Moneytrees

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Changes to user permissions made from Meta are now included in the local user permissions log (T6055).
  • The autoconfirmed user group will soon be modified such that the four-day account age requirement begins when an account makes its first edit (T418484).

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case SchroCat has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case closed on 15 April.
  • Per a recent motion, appeals of blocks from the conflict-of-interest VRT queue are, by default, appealed on-wiki through the normal unblock process. However, they may be heard by the Committee if COIVRTers disagree on the interpretation of the evidence or believe ArbCom would be better suited to hear the appeal. Administrators are also advised that loosening or lifting such blocks without the consent of someone with access to the queue or ArbCom can be grounds for desysopping.
  • Per a recent motion, restrictions issued directly by the Committee may now be enforced with blocks which work exactly like contentious topic blocks.
  • The arbitration case Maghreb has been closed.

Miscellaneous


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The Bugle: Issue 241, May 2026

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The Signpost: 22 May 2026

  • Recent research: WikiLambda the Ultimate
    Does Abstract Wikipedia help fight "One ring to rule them all" solutions for knowledge access - or does it implement one itself?
  • Gallery: Earth Day and Mother's Day
    Earth Day was on 22 April, and Mother's Day was on 10 May (in the US and many other countries).

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The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
2026
1 30 April
Volume 4 Issue 4
Spaceflight Project  Project discussion  Members  Assessment  Open tasks  Popular pages  The Downlink
In the News
  • Artemis II, the first crewed mission to the moon since Apollo 17, was launched on 1 April. During the lunar flyby, it became the furthest spaceflight in human history on the 6th. Integrity, the re-entry vehicle, splashed down southwest of San Diego on the 11th.
  • On 8 April, the first satellites of the Celeste (LEO-PNT) constellation began broadcasting navigation signals for the first time.
Featured Content

The image "STS-133 Space Shuttle Discovery after undocking" was promoted to Featured Media status on 30 April. It was nominated by Moonreach.

Article of the month

The Gallaudet Eleven were a group of eleven deaf men recruited in the late 1950s and 1960s to participate in a joint research program led by NASA and the U.S. Naval School of Aviation Medicine (later changed to Aerospace Medical Association) to study the effects of prolonged weightlessness on the human body. They were selected for participation in the study because damage they had sustained to the vestibular systems of their inner ears had granted them immunity to motion sickness, making them uniquely resilient to certain physical studies that would have made other test subjects nauseous.

Image of the month
Clayton Anderson under weightlessness

A demonstration of weightlessness by astronaut Clayton Anderson, particularly its effect on liquids. The water's surface tension keeps it in a sphere, which here results in the light reflecting off of Anderson being refracted in such a way that it appears upside-down. It is only upside-down relative to Anderson, as there is no "up" or "down" in a weightless environment beyond convention.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 225. Total number of members: 454.

April Launches
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  1. United StatesArgentinaSouth KoreaSaudi ArabiaGermany Space Launch System Block 1 — various, including Artemis II (1 Apr. at 22:35:12) (success)
  2. China Tianlong-3unknown (3 Apr. at 04:17:00) (launch failure)
  3. United States New GlennBlueBird 7 (19 Apr. at 11:25:00) (launch failure)
  4. United States Falcon 9 Block 5USA-585 (21 Apr. 06:53:00) (success)
Article Statistics
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Monthly Changes

Since March 2026, there are one fewer Mid-importance, 28 more Low-importance, four more NA-importance, and 27 more Unknown-importance articles, for a total of 58 new articles. There are also one fewer GA-class, five more B-class, 33 more C-class, two fewer Start-class, 23 more Stub-class articles, and three more lists.

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Administrators' newsletter – June 2026

News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2026).

Administrator changes

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Bureaucrat changes

removed

Guideline and policy news

Technical news

  • Mandatory 2FA for bureaucrats: Bureaucrats without two-factor authentication (2FA) enabled have already lost access to their advanced rights on 26 May. Those who do not enable 2FA may be automatically removed from the groups in mid-June 2026, and from that point onward, new members must have 2FA enabled before they can be added. (T423119, T423120)

Arbitration

  • The arbitration case SchroCat has been closed.
  • The arbitration case Michael Jackson has opened. Evidence submissions in this case closes on 1 June.

Miscellaneous


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The Downlink The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
2026
1 31 May
Volume 4 Issue 5
Spaceflight Project  Project discussion  Members  Assessment  Open tasks  Popular pages  The Downlink
In the News
Article of the month
Polyus on the Energia rocket

The Polyus spacecraft (Russian: Полюс, pole), also known as Polus, Skif-DM, GRAU index 17F19DM, was a prototype Soviet orbital weapons platform designed to destroy Strategic Defense Initiative satellites with a megawatt carbon-dioxide laser. It had a Functional Cargo Block derived from a TKS spacecraft to control its orbit and it could launch test targets to demonstrate the fire control system.

Image of the month
Integrated Truss Structure of the ISS

This graphic is an exploded view of the Integrated Truss Structure, the long segment that has the ISS' distinctive solar panels. The first piece, Z1, was installed in October 2000, while the most recent addition, S6, being installed in October 2007; the current configuration of the ITS dates to June 2023. In addition to providing electricity via the solar panels, the ITS is the location of energy storage, with battery assemblies on the P4/6 and S4/6 segments. These each consist of 24 lithium-ion batteries, for a total of 96 batteries.

Members

New Members:

Number of active members: 230. Total number of members: 460.

May Launches
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  1. China Zhuque-2EDingzhihua Shiyan Zaihe (14 May at 03:00:00) (success)
  2. ItalyChinaEuropean Union Vega CSMILE
Article Statistics
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Monthly Changes

Since April 2026, there are one fewer Top-importance, two fewer High-importance, eight more Mid-importance, 17 more Low-importance, two more NA-importance, and twenty more Unknown-importance articles, for a total of 44 new articles. There are also five more B-class, eleven more C-class, six more Start-class, 18 more Stub-class articles, and one more list.

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Tech News: 2026-25

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The Bugle: Issue 242, June 2026

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Incorrect date on one of the photos on your user page

Hi, I really like your profile page with all the aviation content, but I have noticed that one of the images on your profile page is dated incorrectly. The photo of the Delta Bombardier CRJ900 was labelled as from May 23, 2025, however, the plane in question had crashed several months earlier, perhaps you made a typo and actually meant 2023? Because that's what the date label from the Wikimedia Common file says. I just thought I should tell you that so you can correct the mistake. Shaun135 (talk) 13:05, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

Good catch. It's fixed now. Thanks! - ZLEA TǀC 16:24, 19 June 2026 (UTC)

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Beta Technologies Alia

Hi ZLEA, just wanted to make you aware of this redirect request to WP:AFC/R given you have reverted the TA's changes. S0091 (talk) 21:46, 26 June 2026 (UTC)

S0091 Thanks. The user has claimed that they are using SkyCards (a mobile game by Flightradar24) as a source. Even without considering the questionable reliability of a mobile game made for entertainment, I don't see the Alia or "CX30" anywhere in the game's "Airpedia" list. That said, "CX30" was added as the FAA type designator (but not yet an official ICAO type designator) for the CX300 variant of the Alia by Air Traffic Organization Policy Order JO 7360.1K. However, this only applies to a single variant of the aircraft and is by far not the WP:COMMONNAME of the type as a whole. Might be worth adding a link to the disambiguation page if "CX30" ever becomes an official ICAO designator, but I'm not sure it's necessary now. - ZLEA TǀC 23:51, 26 June 2026 (UTC)